From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 25 18:05:45 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B88D1F571C for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 18:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic302-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic302-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [87.248.110.84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 484kT30rrzz3JkV for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 18:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: c0OGr_oVM1k5hxystBZ.Y7tBX64uF4FxAakpA.9AUGCpUwskja0yGxdwQsX8eJt 07VIwYtvyZPKdARtZLSixce553bVwf4jvFwYGpbow0BwVTioJmquSE8t.WEZZhfFPbPi6HvaQHuH vL24_1cNnBQG817ibgf6J8r7BZ1SkL2MWNS4XBXjsNjUb6qNunDSlrspcv.9jskIjdioQ8kAP9qs cKdV2zgLiw3CAR0AGgJ9mSWA3s69kHyujy6y0WA1.8iA5Z6kW1n4UbVe1eLp04A6_QD10BAzAaDR sXNhvB9we4_c7HmTVGiZpCf9enJQtxZDsJT0ninGjXOEmNeKpQ3.MIxkOgx3HBNiv.b.0fczobbo hipFEqJMQttfZ7rELMVUAnO98X9EW19OoD7VHC8hF5Zo7jVnyuxcKY2YMxqcox.UHBcxuEYBLwmo nw6WmL1MAogYeIhHDBNRb4RQDPU3I3f7piIB9W9p2hHmTk90vKqqpoFEc7eJQQBn4N9aakVaJohM 18.EcTl6G4c1XZVfYUSdudALO8X1tMclPmXATObvE4D_e_vPi9eQQpU8PJnvmn5UPJNR2X2Eq8To sldm9LqkEUV1oh_4NNuVKjLlajOTONxnFZfkwWlcyg1PAFYRQ2Kns70R3yiCAV3Uk_KgpkPUgmOc kRmTY7ZJo8McnM.LvZD9nANSCuMwzkkMkN7tCBF4gIZ466OnHSThd1SLi9x60p8FZqcmixSuCxiY cJG45BsrC2e5OKASt8nptdREU3b2sj7j5oUa8uhIkVgZMhJVN1W3Qro9jxc3jwAQNZeCzhPMuc.0 cjoO6.dApGkXSeduHo8jv.mCjwQjW1rV6Wx8UNeM8qpgSJIokj7r_cjt7FqR1So8bIwXu.x1rWY8 PVedRMgjQNfdz338PnmOhEeZKEGpGRnXOTRBWzET5J2up_vGETVwTjA.eHoECopA.2lnzuqf7jVL UIX52oQ0iJDW7N7PKavraVb3k92FRccIH3vQ9vmq0GgWYyyfm9QyrqfRpLemNDPP4._cvPiG4soG p4cnSg1wiGrVAKjg.3wc3omi5ysMtvj3V_McCq1Icw81AxPHqUFog6WW1i5FB6wEXp9Mz3n1lPx5 fmbnkKezXTqq4eyiwna3qEMEQN.kP9QWoQAI5DupM6wdcRuHgQUh2ZsXAsN10Np1O_ZMmhbIKd3F THeSoiwLbgglA4ktaBnJisFcRwqZwWBAyhtT0K9B5UUinJMBIG7To1XJlKKR4wJqGXiX95IK.wd0 C7emMWLzuXzj1ivwvFDzBHC9xlqZGsFBHWbbtlu1tvwzC2aNvt5WpInyXT4ks_w4LGos6Qb9kLJV sUlFR2O.sIJzgec6tDbKH.6g6XvGIuMf3yHAFs4RGvrpC6vuLW_YEm1rn5mCIj69yYTtAX28M2lz .FlPKM69U7pr_Bw-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic302.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 18:05:39 +0000 Received: by smtp426.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 02f4e4e2b85a762fa3c393d50547e99c; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 18:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <14c8c7019bd0060944e3ba5a79561502673c53be.camel@rocketmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtualbox shows only 32-bit machine options From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 19:05:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.14873 hermes Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/1.8.0_181) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 484kT30rrzz3JkV X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.13 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.45)[0.452,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.59)[-0.586,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[84.110.248.87.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.01), ipnet: 87.248.110.0/24(2.39), asn: 34010(1.73), country: GB(-0.08)]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[84.110.248.87.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:87.248.110.0/24, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 18:05:45 -0000 On Sat, 2020-01-25 at 16:20 +0000, Manish Jain wrote: > I installed virtualbox-ose as the documentation, but when I try to > create a new virtual machine (Win 10-64bit), Virtualbox shows only > 32-bit options. That's not specific to Win10. Even Linux options are > only 32-bit. > > So how do I install a 64-bit virtual machine ? There might be virtualization settings provided by the BIOS of your computer and/or by FreeBSD that needs to be enabled or disabled. Perhaps you even need to update the BIOS. Even while a missing Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack shouldn't matter related to the available guest architectures, you never know. If the Extension pack isn't installed, consider to install it. On a Linux host running the Oracle branded non-OSE version, I always need to fix the *.vbox file after installing a new release of virtualbox, resp. after installing new guest additions for a Windows 10 guest. I don't need to do it for a Windows 7 guest. For the Windows 10 guest I get "Cannot register the DVD image because UUID already exists", even while the guest additions were ejected from the virtual DVD drive. It requires to delete the entries between "" and "". On my Linux host I fortunately are able to run the Oracle branded non- OSE version. While it's said that nowadays the OSE version is the same as the non-OSE version, it's actually not true. Differences between the OSE and non-OSE version already start by mouse cursor rendering. In my experiences with Linux hosts the OSE version is way more a PITA, than the non-OSE version is. Oracle seems not to provide a non-OSE version for FreeBSD. There are way better, less failure prone virtual machines than virtualbox available. I'm just using virtualbox, because it's the easiest to set up VM, e.g. regarding shared folders or even how to get the desktop visible on the host. However, if for what ever reason virtualbox should become more a PITA than it already is, I would migrate to another VM. Virtualbox always is a little bit fishy. It works for me on a Linux host, running Windows guests for a relatively short time. It already is risky to run guests for a long time, or to rely on USB, if a connected device might disconnect the USB connection, regarding an update done for the connected device via the guest. In my experiences it needs to be carefully considered, if the advantages of using virtualbox outshine the disadvantages, compared to less easy to set up, but more reliable VMs. Hopefully somebody is able to answer your request regarding 64 bit guests on a FreeBSD host. Anyway, keep in mind that virtualbox has got pros and cons compared with other virtual machines.