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Date:      Sat, 15 Apr 2000 12:51:44 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Reid Orsten <rorsten@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
To:        Ben Smithurst <ben@scientia.demon.co.uk>
Cc:        Scott Blachowicz <scott@sabmail.rresearch.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Erasing an IDE disk
Message-ID:  <Pine.A41.4.10.10004151247240.27074-100000@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca>
In-Reply-To: <20000415165532.A16019@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>

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On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Ben Smithurst wrote:

> Scott Blachowicz wrote:
> 
> > I'm fixing to remove a disk from my system and give it to someone else. I want
> > to erase it to try to make sure that no personal or sensitive data can be
> > recovered from it. So, my first attempt was to install FreeBSD 4.0 on it, then
> > try to do this kind of stuff:
> > 
> >  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0s2c
> 
> That will only erase slice 2, so that's not really good enough.  You
> won't be able to erase the whole disk unless nothing on ad0 is mounted
> (did you check that; what does "mount" show?).  I think what you'll have
> to do is to put this disk in another FreeBSD system as ad1 (or ad2, or
> whatever), and try erasing /dev/ad1 completely (not ad1s<something>
> or anything like that).  Or, you could use the fixit CD (disc 2 in WC
> sets), and use dd from there.
> 
> As for the person who suggested /dev/urandom, I'm not sure
> that would be better.  It will use loads of CPU time, both
> ways will stop a casual nosy person, and neither way will
> stop someone who *really* wants the data off the disk. See
> <http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/secure_del.html>; for more on this
> sort of stuff.
> 
> When I returned a disk to a shop recently because it was b0rken, I just
> wrote 0x0, 0xff, then 0x0 over the whole disk.  Given that when I took
> it back they used Windows Scandisk to check if it really was faulty, I
> think that was overkill. :-)
> 
> -- 
> Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D
> 
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Bruce Schneier, well respected cryptographer suggests the following method
for erasing a disk securely:

"I recommend overwriting a deleted file seven times: the first time with
all ones, the second time with all zeroes, and five times with a
cryptographically secure pseudo-random sequence."

If its sensitive data, that's the way to go.

Reid



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