From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 6 13:07:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA2616A419; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03DC13C44B; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:07:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4780D289.7020509@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:07:21 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <20080104163352.GA42835@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <9bbcef730801040958t36e48c9fjd0fbfabd49b08b97@mail.gmail.com> <200801061051.26817.peter.schuller@infidyne.com> <9bbcef730801060458k4bc9f2d6uc3f097d70e087b68@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9bbcef730801060458k4bc9f2d6uc3f097d70e087b68@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Peter Schuller , Brooks Davis Subject: Re: When will ZFS become stable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:07:24 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > On 06/01/2008, Peter Schuller wrote: >>> This number is not so large. It seems to be easily crashed by rsync, >>> for example (speaking from my own experience, and also some of my >>> colleagues). >> I can definitely say this is not *generally* true, as I do a lot of >> rsyncing/rdiff-backup:ing and similar stuff (with many files / large files) >> on ZFS without any stability issues. Problems for me have been limited to >> 32bit and the memory exhaustion issue rather than "hard" issues. > > It's not generally true since kmem problems with rsync are often hard > to repeat - I have them on one machine, but not on another, similar > machine. This nonrepeatability is also a part of the problem. > >> But perhaps that's all you are referring to. > > Mostly. I did have a ZFS crash with rsync that wasn't kmem related, > but only once. kmem problems are just tuning. They are not indicative of stability problems in ZFS. Please report any further non-kmem panics you experience. Kris