From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Oct 12 14:12:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mail-relay.eunet.no (mail-relay.eunet.no [193.71.71.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D474C37B502 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login-1.eunet.no (login-1.eunet.no [193.75.110.2]) by mail-relay.eunet.no (8.9.3/8.9.3/GN) with ESMTP id XAA21189; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:12:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbendiks@eunet.no) Received: from localhost (mbendiks@localhost) by login-1.eunet.no (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA64093; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:12:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbendiks@eunet.no) X-Authentication-Warning: login-1.eunet.no: mbendiks owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:12:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Marius Bendiksen To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I do not understand the vitriol in this thread. My guess > is that this is now more about personality clashes instead of > any reasoned debate by people using their brains. Everyone > is pissing in everyone else's cereal, and the result is not > very interesting. Actually, it's a policy matter which is getting under my skin. For as long as I've used it, FreeBSD has been delivering tools, not policy. I have been very pleased with this, and have heard the same from most people I've talked to. The debate, for me at least, is not about telnetd, as such. It is about whether we are going to start shipping the system with policies, not just tools. If so, then I will simply downgrade to the old install scripts locally, and stop nagging. But in the mean time, I'd like to express a strict dislike with doing a mostly worthless alteration to the system, which has the added impact of being a policy decision. Marius To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message