From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Apr 2 15:33:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0948037B4E3 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 15:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0045.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.45] helo=mindspring.com) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16sXkm-0003wF-00; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:31:53 -0800 Message-ID: <3CAA3F51.BD5C9D75@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:31:29 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel O'Connor Cc: Brett Glass , Anthony Atkielski , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020401153352.02b99760@nospam.lariat.org> <3CA8EB5F.2E91B408@mindspring.com> <1017709221.71119.5.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA91382.4E4E2B@mindspring.com> <1017714456.71119.20.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA93944.D72D6AB7@mindspring.com> <1017724424.71119.79.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA970CD.E76C6568@mindspring.com> <1017756809.75949.53.camel@chowder.dons.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 18:20, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > I already have Netscape. You guys were arguing about Netscape > > > > not working, and then you go and point me at Netscape... sheesh. > > > > > > Uhh Mozilla != Netscape 4.x > > > > Netscape 6.x. > > > > Without the Netscape connection, it fails to support Java. > > Really? I don't think you tried very hard. I have Mozilla/Galeon running > here with a native JDK. FreeBSD Native Java? Can you try it with an image map GUI for a network device, which has more than one GUI? Be sure that you move the mouse all over *during* the download of the images in the image map, so that you get to test the GIF rendering code thread restart bug has been fixed. Of course, *no one* would *ever* move the mouse to the area of a GUI they intended to click before the GUI fully loaded, right? [ ... 4 G drives and Galeon ... ;^) ... ] > OK, yes it does suck. Deal with it, or use something like Skipstone (or > Mozilla :) 8-). > > > the 3.5Mb would be worth it for a browser that crashes way _way_ less > > > and has many more useful features. > > > > But it's binary. And it's supported. And it's not explicitly > > labelled as "for testing purposes only!" on the download lead-in > > page. > > Err, and? > Anyway I had assumed that you were talking about NS 4.x. No, I was talking about why pointing someone at Mozilla is actually pointing them at Netscape 6. > > Yes. This is the page where it said the code is for testing > > purposes only, in a dark bold font. The size argument vs. the > > browser that comes with the OS is: > > > > Mozilla 17.9M > > gtk+ > > glib > > gettext > > Comes with what OS? Doesn't. That's the main problem, really. People tend to use the tools that came with their system, or the ones that will install themselves as their system is used, through browser or application bootstrapping (e.g. Office ClipArt or RealAudio or QuickTime browser plugins, etc.). > Also, gtk is 4.5Mb uncompressed, glib is 500kb and gettext is 500kb. Yes. We are talking about over 2% of a gig. Not something you want to spend time sucking down. > You mentioned nothing about it being unsupported as your primary reason > for not using it in your last email... It was assumed, from the context of the subject line, if you have gone out and read the Microsoft arguments. Staying inside the bounds of those arguments, their web site where they make them is still practically unreadable. 8-) 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message