From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Apr 2 9:18:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.thuntek.net (srv1.thuntek.net [206.206.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D9A14CB1 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:18:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwilde1@thuntek.net) Received: from thuntek.net (abq-169.thuntek.net [207.66.52.169]) by srv1.thuntek.net (8.9.1/8.6.12TNT1.0) with ESMTP id KAA27342; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:18:23 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3704FB5B.6DFE8E9F@thuntek.net> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:16:11 -0700 From: Donald Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Swingle Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Advocacy References: <11742.923052372@zippy.cdrom.com> <3704B684.9C55D77A@thuntek.net> <3704EB36.708A399B@naxs.com> <3704F2FD.F1FE13BC@thuntek.net> <19990402085354.B58046@dub.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Swingle wrote: > I totally agree with the previously said benefits of some sort of > promotional disk. That said, I think it is important that, while > impressing the user and showing them the benefits of FreeBSD, the disk > should not misrepresent what an actual FreeBSD install is like > after-the-fact. I like the apache idea for the demo disk but it doesnt > seem like the kind of thing that we would want in a _real_ install. Just > imagine the user running the demo, getting excited about FreeBSD, then > doing a real install and running into twm. Ugh. And that's another thing I'd like to see changed. Bob wanted to talk about improvements to the install process, and we'd like to see another layer of menu after "Congrats! You've now got FreeBSD installed..." that would allow them to select from some preconfigured installs including a few different desktops, a webserver, a SAMBA server, etc. or simply ignore all of those and jump right into the packages and ports stuff. This can all be done with scripts that call pkg_add and drop config files (.xinitrc and .fvwmrc, for example) into their home directories. As long as we stay away from OPTIMIZING X Windows for their graphics card, we can make decent installs without having to do any probing. It's important that we consider any "improvements" we make from the perspective of the SysAdmin user as well as Joe LinWin. We don't want to make it harder for him to do his job, but adding more options doesn't impact him unless we overrun the CD. Since this is just a few K of scriptwork except for programs like Netscape, we're not in danger of that. Worst comes to worst, we'll have an 'insert CD #3' message dialog for programs that don't exist on CD #1. I'd like to see a preconfigured disk-install, too, that would be even more brainless than the existing Novice install. -- Don Wilde "Bringing the Internet to everyone!" Wilde Media 1380 Rio Rancho Blvd. SE #117 voice: 505-771-0709 Rio Rancho, New Mexico 87124 e-mail: dwilde1@thuntek.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message