From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 14 15:15:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (pemaquid.safeport.com [204.156.12.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C258637B405 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by pemaquid.safeport.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f9EMFeH31446 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:15:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pemaquid.safeport.com: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:15:39 -0400 (EDT) From: To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSup is overkill for me Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This seems pretty throughly covered. But some things spur me to make a few comments. For what it does I find cvsup pretty easy to use. I found the relation between the ports tree and various O/S versions harder to get hold of. 1) On the base topic: After getting a working cvsup file going it is not very complex. Conversely I find trying to to figure out how to upgrade the Win9[58] systems I have to be much harder unless I want to say "I trusted you MS do what you willst to my system." I guess it is redundant to say I am dis-inclined to do that :) 2) What track to follow: If you are learning and do not want to get bitten by a occasional STABLE snafu, use the tag RELENG_4_4 (See handbook A.7). This has only security and critical fixes in it. From my perspective CURRENT is only for the developer/experts and the warning on STABLE is overly cautious. Even with that I have a test system that I upgrade first and then used the 'date' tag to replicate that level to the production systems. 3) Unix documentation: Hard to read but worth the effort. To learn a corresponding level about M$ stuff would take about as much time. I find unless I want to trusted by systems to the kindly folks at MS about as much research and reading is required to figure out what maintenance needs to be applied. Some time ago my the browse function on my win9[58] machines just stopped working. Not much help to be had on that question. Contrast that with the information available on 4.4 PCCARD (a burning issue for those of us with old DEL LM laptops :) The handbook at FreeBSD.org gets better and better. Also save as much of question and stable as you have disk space for. I save the last 35K (or so messages) and have access to a archive going back to Oct '99 or I would save more. The tradeoff is control for ease of configuration. Frankly I likely the balance with win95 much better than win98 and even less as MS moves on. I will try to figure out wine/vmware before I go past that other than to have a system to be able to answer customer questions with. _____ Douglas Denault doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message