From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 6 06:55:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5409F16A417 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 06:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::5e5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE3E13C46C for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 06:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (cpe-68-175-8-11.hvc.res.rr.com [68.175.8.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l766teho065387; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 02:55:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l766tYbh055102; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 02:55:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l766tYah055101; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 02:55:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" Message-Id: <200708060655.l766tYah055101@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: kris@obsecurity.org (Kris Kennaway) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 02:55:34 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20070806064220.GA31573@rot26.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: portupgrade modifys EVERY +CONTENTS now? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:55:45 -0000 > > On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 02:01:51AM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 12:49:31AM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 11:10:42PM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I've noticed that recent version(s?) of portupgrade seem to update > > > > > > the +CONTENTS of *EVERY* package on my system, not just the ones it used to > > > > > > actually make a difference to. Is there a way to revert to the old behaviour? > > > > > > With 915 ports (WAS only around 600 before the recent Xorg upgrade) its a > > > > > > killer. On my Soekris with a CF drive, and only 57 ports, its still killing > > > > > > that CF chip. > > > > > > > > > > Please show us how you came to this conclusion. > > > > > > > > > > Kris > > > > > > > > > "script" output from a recent update : > > > > > > > > ---> Upgrade of sysutils/bsdstats started at: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:52:00 -0400 > > > > ---> Upgrading 'bsdstats-5.3' to 'bsdstats-5.3_4' (sysutils/bsdstats) > > > > OK? [yes] > > > > ---> Build of sysutils/bsdstats started at: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:52:09 -0400 > > > > ---> Building '/usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats' > > > > ===> Cleaning for bsdstats-5.3_4 > > > > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > > > > ===> Extracting for bsdstats-5.3_4 > > > > ===> Patching for bsdstats-5.3_4 > > > > ===> Configuring for bsdstats-5.3_4 > > > > ---> Build of sysutils/bsdstats ended at: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:52:10 -0400 (cons > > > > umed 00:00:00) > > > > ---> Updating dependency info > > > > ---> Modifying /var/db/pkg/Hermes-1.3.3_2/+CONTENTS > > > > > > Is it actually writing to these files, or just examining them to see > > > whether they need to be updated? > > > > > > Kris > > > > > I was truthfully only going by what I believed it was saying, that > > it was really modifying them. > > > > I upgraded fetchyahoo tonite after I emailed this, and if I do an > > "ls -lt" in /var/db/pkg I see : > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 15891456 Aug 6 00:59 pkgdb.db > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 fetchyahoo-2.10.9 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-Compress-Zlib-2.005 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-Crypt-SSLeay-0.56 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-IO-Compress-Zlib-2.005 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-libwww-5.805 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 openssl-0.9.8e_1 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-Authen-SASL-2.10_1 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-Digest-MD5-2.36 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-MIME-Tools-5.420_1,2 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-Net-1.21,1 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.005 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-GSSAPI-0.24 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-HTML-Parser-3.56 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-HTML-Tagset-3.10 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-IO-Compress-Base-2.005 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-Convert-BinHex-1.119 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-Digest-1.15 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-IO-stringy-2.110 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-MIME-Base64-3.07 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:59 p5-Mail-Tools-1.74 > > > > (etc) > > > > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:58 bsdstats-5.3_4 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:58 Hermes-1.3.3_2 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:58 ImageMagick-6.3.3.5_1 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:58 ORBit-0.5.17_3 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:58 ORBit2-2.14.8 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:58 OpenEXR-1.4.0 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:58 OpenSP-1.5.2 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:58 Xaw3d-1.5E_2 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Aug 6 00:58 aalib-1.4.r5_3 > > > > I thought the timestamp of a directory only changes if a > > file was added or modified in the directory. > > > > If I do the "ls -lt */\+CONTENTS", I see : > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2386 Aug 6 00:59 fetchyahoo-2.10.9/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1113 Aug 6 00:59 xset-1.0.2/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 976 Aug 6 00:59 xsetmode-1.0.0/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1003 Aug 6 00:59 xsetpointer-1.0.0/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1204 Aug 6 00:59 xsetroot-1.0.1/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1597 Aug 6 00:59 xsm-1.0.1/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1149 Aug 6 00:59 xstdcmap-1.0.1/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 5124 Aug 6 00:59 xterm-228/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1157 Aug 6 00:59 xtrans-1.0.3/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3097 Aug 6 00:59 xtrap-1.0.2/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6643 Aug 6 00:59 xv-3.10a_7/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4629 Aug 6 00:59 xvattr-1.3_3/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 414 Aug 6 00:59 xvid-1.1.3,1/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1689 Aug 6 00:59 xvidtune-1.0.1/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1017 Aug 6 00:59 xvinfo-1.0.1/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1104 Aug 6 00:59 xwd-1.0.1/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1149 Aug 6 00:59 xwininfo-1.0.2/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 5062 Aug 6 00:59 xword-0.07_3/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 777 Aug 6 00:59 xwud-1.0.1/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3627 Aug 6 00:59 yasm-0.6.1/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 349 Aug 6 00:59 zh-chm2html-0.1a/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 441 Aug 6 00:59 zip-2.32/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 78239 Aug 6 00:59 zsh-4.3.4_1/+CONTENTS > > > > (etc) > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 301 Aug 6 00:58 bsdstats-5.3_4/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2156 Aug 6 00:58 Hermes-1.3.3_2/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 64643 Aug 6 00:58 ImageMagick-6.3.3.5_1/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8741 Aug 6 00:58 ORBit-0.5.17_3/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7005 Aug 6 00:58 ORBit2-2.14.8/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 10787 Aug 6 00:58 OpenEXR-1.4.0/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 18170 Aug 6 00:58 OpenSP-1.5.2/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 10272 Aug 6 00:58 Xaw3d-1.5E_2/+CONTENTS > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 20576 Aug 6 00:58 aalib-1.4.r5_3/+CONTENTS > > > > So I'm still going with the file being modified. I guess even if > > its opening the file, reading it, and then writing it back out unmodified, > > its still disk operations that the CF especially can't handle. (Then again, > > the laptop isn't doing too well. > > > > Aug 6 01:45:53 himinbjorg smartd[727]: Device: /dev/ad0, 2 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors > > Aug 6 01:45:53 himinbjorg smartd[727]: Device: /dev/ad0, 3 Offline uncorrectable sectors > > > > (Thats only started too since it was pounded during Xorg upgrade) > > > > I still really would only like it to touch the files it REALLY > > needs to. > > OK, talk to the maintainer. > Ok. But I part of my question to people , and reason for posting it here, is the old "Is anyone else seeing this". When/if you use portupgrade, does it do the same for you? Or is it just something that I happened some how to inherit on atleast 2 of my machines? Thanks, Tuc