From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 13 12:27:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9019E37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 12:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mired.org (ip68-97-54-220.ok.ok.cox.net [68.97.54.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84EB443F75 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 12:27:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm-dated-1050694037.958749@mired.org) Received: (qmail 39047 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2003 19:27:17 -0000 Received: from localhost.mired.org (HELO guru.mired.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.mired.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 2003 19:27:17 -0000 Received: by guru.mired.org (tmda-inject, from uid 100); Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:27:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16025.47636.886397.407929@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:27:16 -0500 To: "John Young" In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`; h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.73 (Jet Pilot) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: console programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:27:19 -0000 /usr/ports is your friend. So aer newlines. Your mail would have been easier to read and reply to if you'd put in a few In , John Young typed: > When I say console programs I mean applications like > word processors Hard to do a real word processors in a console. There are lots of editors and text formatting programs. vi and troff come with the system. Emacs is in the ports system, runs without X and can be built without X support to save memory. LaTeX is also in the ports tree. Those are probably the two most popular editors and text formatters. If that doesn't do what you want, possibly you should describe what you're looking for that you expect to run on a console. /usr/ports/editors is full of editors. /usr/ports/print/latex for latex. > spreadsheets /usr/ports/math is the place to look. sc and ss should both work in a console. > databases Personally, I use PostgreSQL and the psql client - or sometimes python with PyGreSQL, but I like my databases to be real. That's probably a bit large for what you're looking for, but all the SQL servers have clients that will run in a console. For single flat-file stuff, the spreadsheets I've already mentioned are probably as good as you're going to get. What I don't think you'll find is something like Access, that lets you do graphical database design with a single-user database underneath it. Again, if you describe more accurately what you want, we can narrow things down some. But you can look through the pkg-descr files in /usr/ports/databases to get started. > a few games Look in /usr/ports/games. ATC is a great air traffic controller sim that runs in the console. Doing "grep -i ascii */pkg-descr" in /usr/ports/games turns up a half-dozen or so games. http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.