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Date:      Fri, 23 Dec 1994 20:24:01 -0500 (EST)
From:      "Michael C. Newell" <mnewell@lupine.nsi.nasa.gov>
To:        "Daniel Stephens (CSC)" <stephens@mabuse.cas.usf.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: PPP and SLIP are amazingly slow.
Message-ID:  <Pine.SUN.3.91.941223201747.3930E-100000@lupine.nsi.nasa.gov>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSD.3.91.941223203514.702B-100000@mabuse.cas.usf.edu>

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I use CSLIP over V.fc [28.8 when they make it...] modems with the DTE rate
set to 38.4Kbs.  (I use 38.4 because that's the maximum speed my server
ports run; my server is a Sun Sparc 2.) I see pretty much the same results
on my 1.1.5.1 system.  Actually I don't think those values are so bad;
remember that ping packets are transmitted, the other end receives them,
then the other end transmits a response; sort of a half-duplex operation. 

Try FTPing a large binary file - on my system I generally get a 24Kbs 
connection [I've only gotten 28.8 once, and it immediately negotiated 
down].  At that speed I see compressed binary transfers of about 2.7KB/s, 
and occasionally 3.0KB/s.  I think the key is to try to keep data flowing 
- on an external modem you want the RD (or TD if you're sending) light to 
stay on solid; then you'll be getting more of an idea of the actual line 
bandwidth.  Since FTP uses sliding windows you should get a much more 
accurate result than with ping.

Mike

On Fri, 23 Dec 1994, Daniel Stephens (CSC) wrote:

> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 20:44:31 -0800 (GMT-0800)
> From: Daniel Stephens (CSC) <stephens@mabuse.cas.usf.edu>
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: PPP and SLIP are amazingly slow.
> 
> I'm interested in knowing what other people are getting for ping times 
> using 64k ICMP packets between slip client/server machines.  Mine are as 
> follows:
> 
> PPP	230ms
> SLIP 	198ms
> 
> This seems awfully slow between two DX2/66 machines with 14.4 modems.  
> Everything I can find to read never seems to touch on the speed aspect of 
> either of these two protocols, so these times may be perfectly normal, 
> but I don't believe so.  Quick (very poor) math shows that this isn't 
> even 5,000 bps.  Something seems strange here. 
> 	Anyway, if anyone would like to share their ping times with me 
> and then, perhaps point out what they did to their 
> modems/sliplog/slattach to get imporved throughput I'd be a very happy 
> somethingorother.
> 
> Dan
> _______________________________________________________________________________
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> 
> 

Thanks,

Mike

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