From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jun 16 12:11:58 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF260335F24 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cknipe@savage.za.org) Received: from mail-yb1-xb32.google.com (mail-yb1-xb32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b32]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49mRrt2nfPz3ZPK for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cknipe@savage.za.org) Received: by mail-yb1-xb32.google.com with SMTP id r18so10706604ybl.5 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 05:11:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=savage-za-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=pV3WCZkqTx8VMscWFOkUx9TgBUfAA9YOU8+5IZ75AH0=; b=ENOkqFvK3EL0A/SZDa7GaXEIrk+NgodZtZwKq0AY5nBp1xC3wjjPWmhDFcWyGCz5YN zN5YnwmgqUFztcREQaRwMGXCV5RdSih5N+eZZNSihuEgrIPgzeyjf0VXtr2m1bzW2SdG 97sgOiXj+pyZfh1kk7jrGxD0OsJ68OLc9qk+MJg5Tf8ikvri4rDGVeiNzn0OphO8QY6T 3v9mRS7d9PYvdv8WGw/w5xvDwAvcGIPB1ZHjuaGimZYLV/bW2P8hSMm56osC5Zm3yHm4 xEVqV6IuBrV6nXKNbAN55VdOtloDDj8aTgJulUjAohmDBvA+X3o688ud+5YcZKEe70Z6 4slg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pV3WCZkqTx8VMscWFOkUx9TgBUfAA9YOU8+5IZ75AH0=; b=bJYvcHn+yIX+SH0gwFhTWf1XcaLF2GNLgRaSyt4MXCSiMnJspkRaRCKVkoIENBvJ2F 0/I02qZtUYSRYZXcudJDOkreRXC4XsvB2mRKpytRcy975CNWbjWUDhlEFsjhdfZNxrc3 XvNZC+JV4aXbOhUNRusKfyjusguaerEn4tGlcdTAdBw6QVSw0HAlywF+sNd/H4iwR693 aLbONIoBts3dw2mdL7Awdic3I5oDvMotwfw77tE4nijPGKG5Tt1bkoTP+ZDxnIu0S2Dq HaF3A+enaV1PAO8GRwQKcSivpLJvJ8p/lFwX/ziXVKByaEgoZw7hyBJJrTef3vDKYHUz oIVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533CIUmDuv7KBUuLNcQI4eHjIsEX8VlL8nGKVH40r0tCL5n8pYZy b4NV13FIAvYcjvZR0fmuXO4b/+qPxT93WU9iNKPuQw/X X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxV2rf/CYDjvBYw6ErDjlvFfaIQXfcEZj1g+9abBSm1D6RKsuVGypxl0J+nxgKkCJ0CiUdwx/6jzRm3sqF0wXk= X-Received: by 2002:a25:d755:: with SMTP id o82mr3357886ybg.166.1592309517410; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 05:11:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200613154409.GA89618@neutralgood.org> <13115.1592302784@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <20200616071153.00006f4d@seibercom.net> <20200616075548.000066f1@seibercom.net> <20200616140416.bd7b8bf2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20200616140416.bd7b8bf2.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Chris Knipe Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:11:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette was freebsd vs. netbsd To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD - X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49mRrt2nfPz3ZPK X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=savage-za-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=ENOkqFvK; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of cknipe@savage.za.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b32 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=cknipe@savage.za.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.14 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[savage-za-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.06)[-1.057]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.01)[-1.012]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[savage.za.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[savage-za-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b32:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.871]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[savage@savage.za.org,cknipe@savage.za.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[savage@savage.za.org,cknipe@savage.za.org] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:11:59 -0000 > > > While this is true in general, one should always keep in > mind not to confuse change with improvement: "newer" does > not magically imply "better", so educated human judgement > is always welcome. > That is your opinion, and you're entitled to it. Frankly, I am -very- happy we have moved past 76 character width limitations, and text based emails with crappy fonts. Yes, there is risk involved, sure. There are risks involved in -anything- you do online these days... Again, there's means to protect against it.