From owner-freebsd-perl@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 20 08:43:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9275A16A4CE for ; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:43:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from files.jawa.at (jawa.at [213.229.17.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F8C43D41 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:43:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mranner@jawa.at) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by files.jawa.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCE5FE04; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:43:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from files.jawa.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (files.jawa.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09671-06; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:43:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: by files.jawa.at (Postfix, from userid 60) id 2A1DCFDFA; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:43:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from walgrind.jawa.at (walgrind.jawa.at [192.168.200.56]) by files.jawa.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A28FDAC; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:43:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Ranner To: perl@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:43:21 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <200408181512.59208.mranner@inode.at> <200408191109.10272.mranner@inode.at> <20040819181836.I86733@titanic.medinet.si> In-Reply-To: <20040819181836.I86733@titanic.medinet.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200408201043.21783.mranner@jawa.at> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on files.jawa.at X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,J_CHICKENPOX_34 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at jawa.at cc: Blaz Zupan Subject: Re: Fresh perl install and amavisd-new X-BeenThere: freebsd-perl@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: maintainer of a number of perl-related ports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:43:34 -0000 Am Donnerstag, 19. August 2004 18:21 schrieb Blaz Zupan: > > Installation of Perl distribution is finished. Please note, that > > since Perl is also in the base system, this distribution will not > > be used by default. > > > > # > > # this ist not true on FreeBSD 5 > > # > > It *is* true. This distribution will not be used by default. If there is > nothing in the base system, well you don't have a perl. "Please note, that since Perl is also in the base system" AFAIK there is no perl in the base system on FreeBSD 5, so this part of the pkg-message is not correct on FreeBSD 5. The part "This distribution will not be used by default" is correct. I know some users who are searching and asking me for the "hidden" perl in the base system on FreeBSD 5 because auf this pkg-message. > > but perl -v works as expected. > > It does, but perl is *not* installed. This is your, my and probably other FreeBSD experts opinion, but if some users may run perl in the command line and can write scripts with #!/usr/local/bin/perl the may think its "installed". > There are dozens of ports that depend on perl 5.8 (or perl 5.6). Should > every single one of them contain warnings in addition to the warnings being > displayed by perl itself? If you try to install amavisd-new, it warns you > that you need perl 5.8.X. So, you need to properly install it. If the > instructions for perl installation are not good enough, then *they* should > be fixed, not the instructions for every single port that depends on perl. > Just IMHO. Sure, amavisd-new was only one example. I think the pkg-message or other instructions for the perl ports should be updated for FreeBSD 5 or maybe the installation can be automated, if there is no other perl on the system, run use.perl port and make the necessary entries in /etc/make.conf automagically. Thats why I posted also to perl@freebsd.org -- /\/\ichael Ranner mranner@jawa.at - mranner@bitonline.cc - webmaster@mariazell.at ---------------------------------------------------------------------- JAWA Management Software GmbH - http://www.jawa.at/ Liebenauer Hauptstrasse 2oo - A-8041 Graz Tel +43 316 403274 21 - Fax +43 316 403274 10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mariazell Online - http://www.mariazell.at/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------