From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 2 05:42:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439C616A41F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 05:42:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727EA43D62 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 05:42:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:42:01 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 3A5905D07; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 21:42:02 -0800 (PST) To: "Mitch \(Bitblock\)" In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:15:57 PST." <026001c60f31$b42cb200$0600010a@hts.bitblock.net> Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:42:02 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060102054202.3A5905D07@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OK - I'm stumped - where IS stable? Sorry if it seems like a dumb question but I looked in the handbook... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 05:42:08 -0000 > From: "Mitch \(Bitblock\)" > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 16:15:57 -0800 > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > The handbook > (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.ht > ml#STABLE) references ftp://snapshots.jp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ > - which doesn't seem to contain any 6.0 files newer than 2004? > > The main FTP site doesn't contain a "branches" folder for anything past > 4.0-stable. > > Are formal "stable releases" not available for 6.0 yet? Just the current > daily snapshots? Formal "stable releases" are called releases. Stable is the development branch of a given version. At this time there are "stable" branches of at least versions 3, 4, 5, and 6. But these are branches and normally the most recent point on any branch is referred to as "stable". Releases are (more or less) marked points along the stable development that get a great deal of extra work to make them as clean as possible and then the tree is tagged with the release and ISO images are generated for the various platforms. If you want a "stable release", you want just that, a release. As of this time there has been only a single release on the version 6 branch, 6.0. If you want 6, install 6.0-Release. From there you can update your system to 6-Stable, if you wish. (The same is true for prior version, except that V3 is pretty much dead these days and 4 gets little attention other than security issues. V5 is moving in that direction, but is still getting some updates. Snapshots are built, but not on the normal distribution systems. They are on ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/, but they are not "formal" in any way. They are development snapshots and nothing more. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634