From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 10:33:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 931) id 1D1F816A4D0; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 10:33:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:33:15 -0600 From: Juli Mallett To: crap@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040105183315.GA99773@FreeBSD.org> References: <200401051502.i05F2qqG007611@dungeon.home> <20040105175904.GA32112@online.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040105175904.GA32112@online.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Title: Code Maven X-Towel: Yes X-Negacore: Yes X-Authentication-Warning: localhost: juli pwned teh intarweb Subject: Re: Personal patches X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:33:15 -0000 > > Personally I think the offensive fortune file can be removed, or made > into a port. We have quite enough sources for offensive humour these > days, thank you, besides a lot of it seems quite innocuous to me and > can be merged back into the regular file (or else many the regular > fortunes seem potentially offensive). All humour is potentially > offensive to someone somewhere of course, but we can draw the line at > stupid bigoted non-humour like Rush Limbaugh. > In the spirit of "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it," I have to suggest that you just stop reading the offensive fortunes. The Rush stuff isn't funny, in and of itself. In fact, it's brash neo-conservative fluff rhetoric, with a little lack of modern social graces, as they were, becuase what's what Rush's audience is, and I have absolutely no problem with that. I might not like it (and I don't) but he's speaking to an audience who wants to hear what he says, pretty much 90% of the time. As Doug Barton (it was he who added these, yes?) said, there's quite a bit of "liberal," I think is the word, stuff there as it is. So I'd suggest that the people who are strongly against Rush's point of view who read the offensive fortunes and haven't yet grasped dealing with someone *else's* viewpoints in a constructive manner take a second and try to find the humor, or at least comfort, in this: %%% Rush Limbaugh's 35 Undeniable Truths of Life: (20) There is a God. -- "The Limbaugh Letter," Copyright 1992, EFM Publishing, Inc. %%% I can find no less than 3 things that amuse me with that, and only one thing that offends me. All else is just my opinion, my personal feelings, etc. Actually being offended takes a lot. There are some of Rush's statements which do offend me in a measurable way, but that's not the point. The point is, if you're one of the people who takes comfort in seeing these things (I can only imagine that they're *not* actually intended to be funny, even if they *are* light-hearted in Rush's way [I've listened to him a lot over time, and I think I at least vaguely understand the slant of his wit, as it were],) then you're probably happy to see them come on your screen now and then, amidst the likes of the below* (since you clearly have offensive fortunes shown to you on login,) and if you're not a big fan, take comfort in the converse. And if you disagree with everyone, then I hope you're big enough on dischord to get a big chuckle out of all of this, lest your life be riddled with the unhappiness that comes from not being a very fun person. %%% A conservative is a man who believes that nothing should be done for the first time. -- Alfred E. Wiggam %%% And remember, per fortune, that you are always free to just ignore the drivel in fortune, or this drivel, this email. Maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't be playing with the offensive fortunes. %%% I'll defend to the death your right to say that, but I never said I'd listen to it! -- Tom Galloway with apologies to Voltaire %%% Thanx, juli. * - Like I know what the hell in fortune ranks up there with the 35 Limbaugh things. I didn't just want to pick any one social issue (namely homosexuality, which fortune is quite fond of) so I just tried a bunch of fortune -am and gave it my best. If you can do better, feel free. If you can think of some similar that should be there alongside them, heh, go for it! PS: Since moving to Hawai`i, I've grown even fonder of this whole "social melting pot" thing, so I'm sure I sound like a total crackpot to both sides, just remember that a meeting of peoples who disagree, who are different, who ... is pretty much undeniably one of the things that does make America great. Or at least, that's what I was taught. -- juli mallett. email: jmallett@freebsd.org; efnet: juli; aim: bsdflata;