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Date:      Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:53:38 -0500
From:      David Campbell <dcampbell@mail.utexas.edu>
To:        "Jonathan M. Slivko" <optix@nyc.rr.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Bizarre rituals to reboot
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Progress! In a fashion...

Now, I only have to make sure I power down between reboots, I don't have
to do the Win98 FDisk step.

I appreciate the suggestion. Anything else that you come up with is
welcome.

Dave

"Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote:

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> Hash: SHA1 I know this might a little rash, but it might work. Try
> doing, from
> the Win98 CD, fdisk /mbr, to remove the bootmanager and then reboot.
> After that, reload the Windows CD in the drive and then remove all
> the drives via fdisk and then redo the FreeBSD install. I have found
> that FreeBSD acts a little wierd when it doesn't have clean drives to
> work with. However, i'm not guaranteeing that this will fix the
> problem, this is just what i've learned over the few years that i've
> been running FreeBSD as a server operating system. - -- Jonathan M.
> Slivko ~~~~
> Jonathan M. Slivko <optix@nyc.rr.com>
> Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services
> IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network
> Pager: (917) 388-5304
> Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/
> (PGP Key @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc)
> ~~~~
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Campbell
> To: Jonathan M. Slivko
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Bizarre rituals to reboot
> My first install, using the installer, I deleted the existing
> partitions, and created a single partition, that I divided into 3
> slices (/, swap, /usr). I selected the boot manager.
> The hard drive is a 4GB SCSI-2. Dave "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: -
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> David, When you first installed FreeBSD, did you fdisk the drive? Did
> you
> install a boot manager? What kind of a hard drive is this machine
> running? - - -- Jonathan M. Slivko ~~~~
> Jonathan M. Slivko <optix@nyc.rr.com>
> Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services
> IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network
> Pager: (917) 388-5304
> Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/
> (PGP Key @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc)
> ~~~~
> - - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Campbell" <dcampbell@mail.utexas.edu>
> To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:42 PM
> Subject: Bizarre rituals to reboot > I am a newbie. After playing with
> an initial install of FreeBSD 4.2
> >  for a little over a week, changing and modifying files to my
> > heart's
> > content, I did a clean re-install to start from a known point, at a
> >  different security level than I had originally installed with. The
> >  install, on a  Compaq Workstation AP400 with 256MB RAM, 4GB hard
> > drive, appears to go flawlessly, regardless of how many partitions
> > or slices I create, or boot manager I use (if any). On reboot, I
> > get "Non-System disk or disk error."
> >
> > After a couple of days wrestling with this, I have discovered that
> > if after the install, I put in a Win98 boot disk, look at the drive
> >  with FDISK (making no changes, just looking at partitions), take
> > out the Win98 disk, the machine boots to FreeBSD just fine. If I
> > then reboot, I get the error. I continue to get the error on
> > reboots until I look at the drive with FDISK. At that point, the
> > boot-God is appeased, and it works fine.
> >
> > Does anyone have any insight into what is going on with this?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
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David Campbell
Sr Systems Analyst     512 475 9398
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The University of Texas at Austin



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Progress! In a fashion...
<p>Now, I&nbsp;only have to make sure I&nbsp;power down between reboots,
I don't have to do the Win98 FDisk step.
<p>I appreciate the suggestion. Anything else that you come up with is
welcome.
<p>Dave
<p>"Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>-----BEGIN
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<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Hash: SHA1</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I
know this might a little rash, but it might work. Try doing, from</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>the Win98 CD, fdisk /mbr, to remove
the bootmanager and then reboot.</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>After that, reload the Windows CD
in the drive and then remove all</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>the drives via fdisk and then redo
the FreeBSD install. I have found</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>that FreeBSD acts a little wierd when
it doesn't have clean drives to</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>work with. However, i'm not guaranteeing
that this will fix the</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>problem, this is just what i've learned
over the few years that i've</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>been running FreeBSD as a server operating
system.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>- -- Jonathan M.
Slivko</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>~~~~</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Jonathan M. Slivko &lt;<a href="mailto:optix@nyc.rr.com">optix@nyc.rr.com</a>></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet
Services</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Pager: (917) 388-5304</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Website: <a href="http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/">http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/</a></font></font>;
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>(PGP Key @ <a href="http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc">http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc</a>)</font></font>;
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>~~~~</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>- ----- Original Message -----</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>From: David Campbell</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>To: Jonathan M. Slivko</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Cc: <a href="mailto:freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG">freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG</a></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:55
PM</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Subject: Re: Bizarre rituals to reboot</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>My first install, using the installer,
I deleted the existing</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>partitions, and created a single partition,
that I divided into 3</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>slices (/, swap, /usr). I selected
the boot manager.</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>The hard drive is a 4GB SCSI-2.</font></font>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Dave</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>"Jonathan
M. Slivko" wrote:</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>- -----BEGIN
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<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>David,</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>When
you first installed FreeBSD, did you fdisk the drive? Did you</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>install a boot manager? What kind
of a hard drive is this machine</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>running?</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>-
- -- Jonathan M. Slivko</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>~~~~</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Jonathan M. Slivko &lt;<a href="mailto:optix@nyc.rr.com">optix@nyc.rr.com</a>></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet
Services</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Pager: (917) 388-5304</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Website: <a href="http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/">http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/</a></font></font>;
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>(PGP Key @ <a href="http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc">http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc</a>)</font></font>;
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>~~~~</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>- - ----- Original Message -----</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>From: "David Campbell" &lt;<a href="mailto:dcampbell@mail.utexas.edu">dcampbell@mail.utexas.edu</a>></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>To: &lt;<a href="mailto:freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG">freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG</a>></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:42
PM</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Subject: Bizarre rituals to reboot</font></font>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> I am a newbie. After playing with an
initial install of FreeBSD 4.2</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>>&nbsp; for a little over a week,
changing and modifying files to my</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> heart's</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> content, I did a clean re-install
to start from a known point, at a</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>>&nbsp; different security level than
I had originally installed with. The</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>>&nbsp; install, on a&nbsp; Compaq
Workstation AP400 with 256MB RAM, 4GB hard</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> drive, appears to go flawlessly,
regardless of how many partitions</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> or slices I create, or boot manager
I use (if any). On reboot, I</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> get "Non-System disk or disk error."</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> After a couple of days wrestling
with this, I have discovered that</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> if after the install, I put in a
Win98 boot disk, look at the drive</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>>&nbsp; with FDISK (making no changes,
just looking at partitions), take</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> out the Win98 disk, the machine
boots to FreeBSD just fine. If I</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> then reboot, I get the error. I
continue to get the error on</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> reboots until I look at the drive
with FDISK. At that point, the</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> boot-God is appeased, and it works
fine.</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> Does anyone have any insight into
what is going on with this?</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>> Dave</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>></font></font>
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<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Sr Systems Analyst&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Center For Instructional Technologies</font></font>
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David Campbell
Sr Systems Analyst&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 512 475 9398&nbsp;
Center For Instructional Technologies
The University of Texas at Austin</pre>
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