From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 19:35:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7912E16A41F for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:35:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C7943D48 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:35:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9FJZP80030605; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j9FJZOox030604; Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:35:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:35:23 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: "Andrew P." Message-ID: <20051015193523.GA29903@thought.org> References: <20051012213632.GA3888@thought.org> <20051015075710.GB26129@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 19 years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , Nikolas Britton , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: interesting past 4 hours... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:35:31 -0000 On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 12:06:30PM +0400, Andrew P. wrote: > On 10/15/05, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:08:31PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > On 10/12/05, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > This is to anybody with Gnome or KDE insights, > > > > > > > > First, both environments do work on my 400Mhz ThinkPad > > > > (with almost 300M/SDRAM). KDE has a nicer feel for my tastes > > > > but the response in beyond crummy even with nearly all > > > > eye-candy. > > > > > > Did you mean to say with all eye-candy disabled?... Have you checked out XFCE? > > > > > > Intro to XFCE: > > > http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=overview&lang=en > > > > > > Here are some flash based demos: > > > http://www.xfce.org/various/flash_demos.html > > > > > > The XFCE meta port is in x11-wm/xfce4 and don't forget about all the > > > plugins: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=XFCE&stype=all > > > > > > After you install the XFCE meta port type in rehash and then > > > startxfce4, if you like it and want to keep it as your default desktop > > > environment type in "echo "/usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce4" > ~/.xinitrc". > > > the FreeBSD handbook as a bit about XFCE in section 5.7.4 > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html > > > > > > I use KDE on my fast systems and XFCE on the slow ones. > > > > > > > I'll give xfce a try. Again. I played with it months ago > > but gave up on it after a few days. Can I run all KDE-ware > > and Gnome suites too? > > > > Thanks for the pointers! > > > > gary > > > > > > > > -- > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > Many FreeBSD users came to love Fluxbox. It's > a windowmaker-based manager, very nice, very > lightweight. It's not an environment, so there are > no file managers, viewers, keyrings, etc. included. > But it has some support for both KDE and Gnome > programs, so you can easily install any Gnome- > based tool (it'll also install some parts of Gnome, > but not all of it). It has no conflicts with Gnome/ > KDE, so you can install and see if you like it. You know, what I'd like my wm to be able to do is set app (say xload) /usr/bin/nice -n -17 xload -g 50x90+0+0 & so that I'll be able to nice it down to some low value, control the placing and size of the app, and so on. I assume that Gnome/KDE (and their light versions) have some ~user/.* XML files where things are tuned, but grep -r .* hasn't found anything ... Is there/Where is the files that list the apps so that I can set up things and season-to-my-tastes? For me, functioality is more imortant than how "pretty" things look. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix