From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 22 0:33:26 1999 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B079514F8D; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:33:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA18547; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:31:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Greg Lehey Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven , Mark Murray , "Andrey A. Chernov" , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Names (was: cvs commit: src/share/colldef cs_CZ.ISO_8859-2.src Makefile) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:50:40 +1030." <19991222185040.D1316@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:31:53 +0100 Message-ID: <18545.945851513@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <19991222185040.D1316@freebie.lemis.com>, Greg Lehey writes: >On Wednesday, 22 December 1999 at 9:08:35 +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: >> -On [19991222 06:55], Mark Murray (mark@grondar.za) wrote: >>>> I assume that this guy's first name is Rudolf. I wonder how many >>>> people reading this would think it's Cejka. Could we agree to put the >>>> first first and the last last, at least for European cultures? >>> >>> Better - completely capitalise the surname. >> >> AFAIk that's only used in Japanese and likewise cultures when they are >> using western type characters. >> >> I have _never_ seen it in use in Europe. > >It's relatively common in Central and Eastern Europe, even as close to >you as Germany. I see it from time to time in the German chat list, >and in Germany almost all official letters address you the wrong way >round. In my case, it really confused people because they couldn't >recognize a first name in either "Greg" or "Lehey". I had a very interesting sequence of faxes with a customer in Wien some years back, from memory it went like: me to them: bla bla bla bla Poul-Henning Kamp them to me: Dear Mr Poul Kamp, me to them bla bla Poul-Henning them to me: Dear Mr Poul (Kamp) Henning, me to them bla bla Poul-Henning Kamp Them to me: Dear Mr Poul, Which is your first name and which is your last name ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message