From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 29 17:12:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.gplsucks.org (alpha.gplsucks.org [63.227.213.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86EDE37B401 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:12:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bwoods2@localhost) by alpha.gplsucks.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eAU1Cor60613; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:12:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:12:49 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Woods To: Brett Glass Cc: webmaster@wmptl.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Here is what IBM thinks about using FreeBSD on their newer Thinkpads In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20001129110537.0498b6c0@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Brett Glass wrote: > gaurdian gaurdian wrote: > > > > So what: > > > > 1) They have no obligation to support FreeBSD. > > Obligation? No. However, the market can and should punish > vendors who sell hardware that's not compatible with industry > standards and widely used software. > > > 2) If you dont like it, dont buy their Laptops... > > I for one, have no issues with them. > > Don't worry; I won't buy an IBM laptop ever again. My 760E > has had many, many problems -- including many that make > it unusable even with Microsoft Windows. And I won't even > get into how awful their service is if your laptop ever > fails. Hmmmm....Their service has been REAL good to me, the basically replaced my whole laptop when I spilled coffee on it, and it dident cost me a dime, it was warreentee(sp), also on my other 600e, when my baby boy ripped the keys off and broke the springs, they replaced the keyboard, in warreentee. They shipped me a shipping box, and in 7 days I had my repaired units........ > > 3) I have FreeBSD running fine on my Thinkpad 600E > > and have had it there for the last year. > > As I recall, the 600E's modem doesn't work with FreeBSD, and > power management doesn't work. APM works fine here....I have had it for a while.... > At 10:48 AM 11/29/2000, Nathan Vidican wrote: > > > >I too have a NEWER IBM Thinkpad, and was truly disapointed; not by the > >fact that IBM doesn't support FreeBSD - that part was assumed... but > >rather by the fact that IBM made the bios incompatable with any type 165 > >partitions on a disk. Thus rendering the newer (Thinkpad A20M-series; eg > >my 2428U) laptops incapable of running FreeBSD. When asked about some > >sort of bios patch to disable the suspend/resume function's usage of > >type 165; IBM just replies 'we don't support using freebsd on these > >machines; but we do now support using caldera's eDesktop 2.4 on them'. > >So I went with Slackware 7.1 just for the record. If anyone does find a > >way to run FreeBSD on something other than type 165 partitions I'd love > >to hear about it. > > If the problem is purely the integer assigned as the partition type, why > not patch the code to allow an alternate number? Also, do any of the other > BSDs happen to use a different number? > > --Brett > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message