From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 13 12:40:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp3fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C571D37B43E for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from optix@nyc.rr.com) Received: from darkstar ([24.29.134.4]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:43:58 -0400 Message-ID: <00f301c0c452$7a291910$01000001@darkstar> From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: "David Campbell" Cc: References: <3AD72C86.C73F47F5@mail.utexas.edu> <00ac01c0c43a$581851f0$01000001@darkstar> <3AD72F6D.7371EBC9@mail.utexas.edu> <00c101c0c43c$6859a080$01000001@darkstar> <3AD73D22.91A7F467@mail.utexas.edu> Subject: Re: Bizarre rituals to reboot Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:46:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F0_01C0C430.F3021C50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F0_01C0C430.F3021C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'll read up more on it and i'll get back to you as I find out more. Thats all for the meantime. - -- Jonathan M. Slivko ~~~~ Jonathan M. Slivko Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network Pager: (917) 388-5304 Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/ (PGP Key @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc) ~~~~ - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Campbell=20 To: Jonathan M. Slivko=20 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 1:53 PM Subject: Re: Bizarre rituals to reboot Progress! In a fashion...=20 Now, I only have to make sure I power down between reboots, I don't have to do the Win98 FDisk step.=20 I appreciate the suggestion. Anything else that you come up with is welcome.=20 Dave=20 "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote:=20 - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----=20 Hash: SHA1 I know this might a little rash, but it might work. Try doing, from=20 the Win98 CD, fdisk /mbr, to remove the bootmanager and then reboot.=20 After that, reload the Windows CD in the drive and then remove all=20 the drives via fdisk and then redo the FreeBSD install. I have found=20 that FreeBSD acts a little wierd when it doesn't have clean drives to work with. However, i'm not guaranteeing that this will fix the=20 problem, this is just what i've learned over the few years that i've=20 been running FreeBSD as a server operating system. - -- Jonathan M. Slivko ~~~~=20 Jonathan M. Slivko =20 Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services=20 IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network=20 Pager: (917) 388-5304=20 Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/=20 (PGP Key @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc)=20 ~~~~=20 - - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Campbell=20 To: Jonathan M. Slivko=20 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:55 PM=20 Subject: Re: Bizarre rituals to reboot=20 My first install, using the installer, I deleted the existing=20 partitions, and created a single partition, that I divided into 3=20 slices (/, swap, /usr). I selected the boot manager.=20 The hard drive is a 4GB SCSI-2. Dave "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----=20 Hash: SHA1=20 David, When you first installed FreeBSD, did you fdisk the drive? Did you=20 install a boot manager? What kind of a hard drive is this machine=20 running? - - -- Jonathan M. Slivko ~~~~=20 Jonathan M. Slivko =20 Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services=20 IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network=20 Pager: (917) 388-5304=20 Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/=20 (PGP Key @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc)=20 ~~~~=20 - - - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "David Campbell" =20 To: =20 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:42 PM=20 Subject: Bizarre rituals to reboot > I am a newbie. After playing with an initial install of FreeBSD 4.2=20 > for a little over a week, changing and modifying files to my=20 > heart's=20 > content, I did a clean re-install to start from a known point, at a > =20 > different security level than I had originally installed with. The > =20 > install, on a Compaq Workstation AP400 with 256MB RAM, 4GB hard=20 > drive, appears to go flawlessly, regardless of how many partitions=20 > or slices I create, or boot manager I use (if any). On reboot, I=20 > get "Non-System disk or disk error."=20 >=20 > After a couple of days wrestling with this, I have discovered that=20 > if after the install, I put in a Win98 boot disk, look at the drive > =20 > with FDISK (making no changes, just looking at partitions), take=20 > out the Win98 disk, the machine boots to FreeBSD just fine. If I=20 > then reboot, I get the error. I continue to get the error on=20 > reboots until I look at the drive with FDISK. At that point, the=20 > boot-God is appeased, and it works fine.=20 >=20 > Does anyone have any insight into what is going on with this?=20 >=20 > Dave=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org=20 with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----=20 Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use=20 iQA/AwUBOtcvKD4aolq8K4tFEQLb0QCgxoqClbbR4odm3YeWK/qsfSjSvtsAnjgb=20 coefS9Cryu5qAitG8bQrqSSg=20 =3D8/Ls=20 - - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - --=20 David Campbell=20 Sr Systems Analyst 512 475 9398=20 Center For Instructional Technologies=20 The University of Texas at Austin=20 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----=20 Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOtcymz4aolq8K4tFEQJxZQCg/XMg5YnqQxkeDeFrhtoUSG7pKf8AoIFB=20 Z98Mkkv0wK4xCbbuFpNUXoIj=20 =3DKQvD=20 - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - --=20 David Campbell Sr Systems Analyst 512 475 9398=20 Center For Instructional Technologies The University of Texas at Austin =20 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOtdXpD4aolq8K4tFEQIMkACfR2+3ak0XneTnYZKc3Vt3ZKjuPdwAnjgf YZvm8oQzFRhbq7kRy/rAXoVD =3DbHdz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------=_NextPart_000_00F0_01C0C430.F3021C50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I'll read up more on it and i'll get = back to you as=20 I find out more.
Thats all for the meantime.
 
- -- Jonathan M. Slivko
 
~~~~
Jonathan M. Slivko <optix@nyc.rr.com>
Systems=20 Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services
IRC Operator, AsylumNet = IRC=20 Network
Pager: (917) 388-5304
Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/<= BR>(PGP=20 Key @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/= optix/jslivko.asc)
~~~~
-=20 ----- Original Message -----
From: David Campbell
To: Jonathan = M. Slivko=20
Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.O= RG=20
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Bizarre rituals = to=20 reboot
 

Progress! In a fashion...
Now, I only have to make sure I = power=20 down between reboots, I don't
have to do the Win98 FDisk step.
 
I appreciate the suggestion. Anything else that you come up with=20 is
welcome.
 
Dave
 
"Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote:
 
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Hash: SHA1 I know this = might a=20 little rash, but it might work. Try
doing, from
the Win98 CD, = fdisk /mbr,=20 to remove the bootmanager and then reboot.
After that, reload the = Windows CD=20 in the drive and then remove all
the drives via fdisk and then redo = the=20 FreeBSD install. I have found
that FreeBSD acts a little wierd when = it=20 doesn't have clean drives to
work with. However, i'm not guaranteeing = that=20 this will fix the
problem, this is just what i've learned over the = few years=20 that i've
been running FreeBSD as a server operating system. - -- = Jonathan=20 M.
Slivko ~~~~
Jonathan M. Slivko <optix@nyc.rr.com>
Systems=20 Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services
IRC Operator, AsylumNet = IRC=20 Network
Pager: (917) 388-5304
Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/ =
(PGP=20 Key @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/= optix/jslivko.asc)=20
~~~~
- - ----- Original Message -----
From: David Campbell =
To:=20 Jonathan M. Slivko
Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.O= RG=20
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Bizarre = rituals to=20 reboot
My first install, using the installer, I deleted the existing =
partitions, and created a single partition, that I divided into 3 =
slices=20 (/, swap, /usr). I selected the boot manager.
The hard drive is a = 4GB=20 SCSI-2. Dave "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: -
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David, When you first installed FreeBSD, = did you=20 fdisk the drive? Did
you
install a boot manager? What kind of a = hard=20 drive is this machine
running? - - -- Jonathan M. Slivko ~~~~ =
Jonathan=20 M. Slivko <optix@nyc.rr.com>=20
Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services
IRC Operator, = AsylumNet IRC Network
Pager: (917) 388-5304
Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/ =
(PGP=20 Key @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/= optix/jslivko.asc)=20
~~~~
- - - ----- Original Message -----
From: "David = Campbell"=20 <dcampbell@mail.utexas.edu&g= t;=20
To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.O= RG>=20
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:42 PM
Subject: Bizarre rituals = to reboot=20 > I am a newbie. After playing
with an initial install of FreeBSD = 4.2=20
>  for a little over a week, changing and modifying files to = my=20
> heart's
> content, I did a clean re-install to start = from a=20 known point, at a
> 
>  different security level = than I=20 had originally installed with. The
> 
>  install, = on=20 a  Compaq Workstation AP400 with 256MB RAM, 4GB hard
> = drive,=20 appears to go flawlessly, regardless of how many partitions
> or = slices I=20 create, or boot manager I use (if any). On reboot, I
> get = "Non-System=20 disk or disk error."
>
> After a couple of days wrestling = with=20 this, I have discovered that
> if after the install, I put in a = Win98=20 boot disk, look at the drive
> 
>  with FDISK = (making no=20 changes, just looking at partitions), take
> out the Win98 disk, = the=20 machine boots to FreeBSD just fine. If I
> then reboot, I get the = error.=20 I continue to get the error on
> reboots until I look at the = drive with=20 FDISK. At that point, the
> boot-God is appeased, and it works = fine.=20
>
> Does anyone have any insight into what is going on = with this?=20
>
> Dave
>
>
> To Unsubscribe: send = mail to=20 majordomo@FreeBSD.org =
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