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Date:      Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:46:48 -0400
From:      "Jonathan M. Slivko" <optix@nyc.rr.com>
To:        "David Campbell" <dcampbell@mail.utexas.edu>
Cc:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Bizarre rituals to reboot
Message-ID:  <00f301c0c452$7a291910$01000001@darkstar>
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I'll read up more on it and i'll get back to you as I find out more.
Thats all for the meantime.

- -- Jonathan M. Slivko

~~~~
Jonathan M. Slivko <optix@nyc.rr.com>
Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services
IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network
Pager: (917) 388-5304
Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/
(PGP Key @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc)
~~~~
- ----- Original Message -----=20
From: David Campbell=20
To: Jonathan M. Slivko=20
Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Bizarre rituals to reboot


Progress! In a fashion...=20
Now, I only have to make sure I power down between reboots, I don't
have to do the Win98 FDisk step.=20

I appreciate the suggestion. Anything else that you come up with is
welcome.=20

Dave=20

"Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote:=20

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Hash: SHA1 I know this might a little rash, but it might work. Try
doing, from=20
the Win98 CD, fdisk /mbr, to remove the bootmanager and then reboot.=20
After that, reload the Windows CD in the drive and then remove all=20
the drives via fdisk and then redo the FreeBSD install. I have found=20
that FreeBSD acts a little wierd when it doesn't have clean drives to
work with. However, i'm not guaranteeing that this will fix the=20
problem, this is just what i've learned over the few years that i've=20
been running FreeBSD as a server operating system. - -- Jonathan M.
Slivko ~~~~=20
Jonathan M. Slivko <optix@nyc.rr.com>=20
Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services=20
IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network=20
Pager: (917) 388-5304=20
Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/=20
(PGP Key @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc)=20
~~~~=20
- - ----- Original Message -----=20
From: David Campbell=20
To: Jonathan M. Slivko=20
Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:55 PM=20
Subject: Re: Bizarre rituals to reboot=20
My first install, using the installer, I deleted the existing=20
partitions, and created a single partition, that I divided into 3=20
slices (/, swap, /usr). I selected the boot manager.=20
The hard drive is a 4GB SCSI-2. Dave "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: -
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David, When you first installed FreeBSD, did you fdisk the drive? Did
you=20
install a boot manager? What kind of a hard drive is this machine=20
running? - - -- Jonathan M. Slivko ~~~~=20
Jonathan M. Slivko <optix@nyc.rr.com>=20
Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services=20
IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network=20
Pager: (917) 388-5304=20
Website: http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/=20
(PGP Key @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc)=20
~~~~=20
- - - ----- Original Message -----=20
From: "David Campbell" <dcampbell@mail.utexas.edu>=20
To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>=20
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:42 PM=20
Subject: Bizarre rituals to reboot > I am a newbie. After playing
with an initial install of FreeBSD 4.2=20
>  for a little over a week, changing and modifying files to my=20
> heart's=20
> content, I did a clean re-install to start from a known point, at a
> =20
>  different security level than I had originally installed with. The
> =20
>  install, on a  Compaq Workstation AP400 with 256MB RAM, 4GB hard=20
> drive, appears to go flawlessly, regardless of how many partitions=20
> or slices I create, or boot manager I use (if any). On reboot, I=20
> get "Non-System disk or disk error."=20
>=20
> After a couple of days wrestling with this, I have discovered that=20
> if after the install, I put in a Win98 boot disk, look at the drive
> =20
>  with FDISK (making no changes, just looking at partitions), take=20
> out the Win98 disk, the machine boots to FreeBSD just fine. If I=20
> then reboot, I get the error. I continue to get the error on=20
> reboots until I look at the drive with FDISK. At that point, the=20
> boot-God is appeased, and it works fine.=20
>=20
> Does anyone have any insight into what is going on with this?=20
>=20
> Dave=20
>=20
>=20
> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll read up more on it and i'll get =
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I find out more.<BR>Thats all for the meantime.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>- -- Jonathan M. Slivko</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>~~~~<BR>Jonathan M. Slivko &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:optix@nyc.rr.com">optix@nyc.rr.com</A>&gt;<BR>Systems=20
Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services<BR>IRC Operator, AsylumNet =
IRC=20
Network<BR>Pager: (917) 388-5304<BR>Website: <A=20
href=3D"http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/">http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/</A><=
BR>(PGP=20
Key @ <A=20
href=3D"http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc">http://home.nyc.rr.com/=
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----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: David Campbell <BR>To: Jonathan =
M. Slivko=20
<BR>Cc: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG">freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.O=
RG</A>=20
<BR>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 1:53 PM<BR>Subject: Re: Bizarre rituals =
to=20
reboot</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><BR>Progress! In a fashion... <BR>Now, I only have to make sure I =
power=20
down between reboots, I don't<BR>have to do the Win98 FDisk step. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I appreciate the suggestion. Anything else that you come up with=20
is<BR>welcome. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Dave </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>"Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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might a=20
little rash, but it might work. Try<BR>doing, from <BR>the Win98 CD, =
fdisk /mbr,=20
to remove the bootmanager and then reboot. <BR>After that, reload the =
Windows CD=20
in the drive and then remove all <BR>the drives via fdisk and then redo =
the=20
FreeBSD install. I have found <BR>that FreeBSD acts a little wierd when =
it=20
doesn't have clean drives to<BR>work with. However, i'm not guaranteeing =
that=20
this will fix the <BR>problem, this is just what i've learned over the =
few years=20
that i've <BR>been running FreeBSD as a server operating system. - -- =
Jonathan=20
M.<BR>Slivko ~~~~ <BR>Jonathan M. Slivko &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:optix@nyc.rr.com">optix@nyc.rr.com</A>&gt; <BR>Systems=20
Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services <BR>IRC Operator, AsylumNet =
IRC=20
Network <BR>Pager: (917) 388-5304 <BR>Website: <A=20
href=3D"http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/">http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/</A>; =
<BR>(PGP=20
Key @ <A=20
href=3D"http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc">http://home.nyc.rr.com/=
optix/jslivko.asc</A>)=20
<BR>~~~~ <BR>- - ----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: David Campbell =
<BR>To:=20
Jonathan M. Slivko <BR>Cc: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG">freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.O=
RG</A>=20
<BR>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:55 PM <BR>Subject: Re: Bizarre =
rituals to=20
reboot <BR>My first install, using the installer, I deleted the existing =

<BR>partitions, and created a single partition, that I divided into 3 =
<BR>slices=20
(/, swap, /usr). I selected the boot manager. <BR>The hard drive is a =
4GB=20
SCSI-2. Dave "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: -<BR>- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED=20
MESSAGE----- <BR>Hash: SHA1 <BR>David, When you first installed FreeBSD, =
did you=20
fdisk the drive? Did<BR>you <BR>install a boot manager? What kind of a =
hard=20
drive is this machine <BR>running? - - -- Jonathan M. Slivko ~~~~ =
<BR>Jonathan=20
M. Slivko &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:optix@nyc.rr.com">optix@nyc.rr.com</A>&gt;=20
<BR>Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services <BR>IRC Operator, =

AsylumNet IRC Network <BR>Pager: (917) 388-5304 <BR>Website: <A=20
href=3D"http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/">http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/</A>; =
<BR>(PGP=20
Key @ <A=20
href=3D"http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jslivko.asc">http://home.nyc.rr.com/=
optix/jslivko.asc</A>)=20
<BR>~~~~ <BR>- - - ----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "David =
Campbell"=20
&lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:dcampbell@mail.utexas.edu">dcampbell@mail.utexas.edu</A>&g=
t;=20
<BR>To: &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG">freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.O=
RG</A>&gt;=20
<BR>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:42 PM <BR>Subject: Bizarre rituals =
to reboot=20
&gt; I am a newbie. After playing<BR>with an initial install of FreeBSD =
4.2=20
<BR>&gt;&nbsp; for a little over a week, changing and modifying files to =
my=20
<BR>&gt; heart's <BR>&gt; content, I did a clean re-install to start =
from a=20
known point, at a<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;&nbsp; different security level =
than I=20
had originally installed with. The<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;&nbsp; install, =
on=20
a&nbsp; Compaq Workstation AP400 with 256MB RAM, 4GB hard <BR>&gt; =
drive,=20
appears to go flawlessly, regardless of how many partitions <BR>&gt; or =
slices I=20
create, or boot manager I use (if any). On reboot, I <BR>&gt; get =
"Non-System=20
disk or disk error." <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; After a couple of days wrestling =
with=20
this, I have discovered that <BR>&gt; if after the install, I put in a =
Win98=20
boot disk, look at the drive<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;&nbsp; with FDISK =
(making no=20
changes, just looking at partitions), take <BR>&gt; out the Win98 disk, =
the=20
machine boots to FreeBSD just fine. If I <BR>&gt; then reboot, I get the =
error.=20
I continue to get the error on <BR>&gt; reboots until I look at the =
drive with=20
FDISK. At that point, the <BR>&gt; boot-God is appeased, and it works =
fine.=20
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Does anyone have any insight into what is going on =
with this?=20
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Dave <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; To Unsubscribe: send =
mail to=20
<A href=3D"mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.org">majordomo@FreeBSD.org</A> =
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"unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -<BR>- =
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