From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:27:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E401065680; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f15.google.com (mail-fx0-f15.google.com [209.85.220.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553338FC0A; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so54669fxm.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:27:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TDfz/Y4YsPtnlxw6hR2m1UOvlEyViEDTFr/+Ram5bPI=; b=l4HUsIvaHuJcXiyM58g6DpYyNz18VjfGzZzGBUZKg0Oh95PELaedzZ/OUlu6pshw9e b30+Ox6ipadEVbp1PdlblXSpSijpMpwdxDStlxbYGzfbeaUnE2pNmkEypTRAvBeGo+cH PetN0LrT6YnEoV5lkbuWbrULVx25HXDuYj8x0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nRHxJnD4yBZ0+F8o4GX33M+wsKlud7gQbsRV73sxLp91EklA7mn6u/kyO+J+vDULJc a3H79KDw6qdWFlCipxe8zLUBZ/DCSg2GrNoL0YvQOkjbeetpDvRKfMul8TTgA+c9mzgq NsGBhBLVRweYQVKXCsFoFIY6Cn9DDHWjrrZ2I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.205.9 with SMTP id h9mr89661bkq.196.1232936822372; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:27:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7d6fde3d0901251822o41b128c0h5770ecbcf407e302@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090120012256.GB29741@dragon.NUXI.org> <20090119.191238.1389906774.imp@bsdimp.com> <20090125235322.GB25031@dragon.NUXI.org> <20090125.173558.1731231004.imp@bsdimp.com> <7d6fde3d0901251822o41b128c0h5770ecbcf407e302@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:27:02 -0800 Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0901251827i7a4717eby5600efeff9be57c4@mail.gmail.com> From: Garrett Cooper To: "M. Warner Losh" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r187332 - head/tools/regression/usr.bin/jot X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:27:04 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:35 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: >> In message: <20090125235322.GB25031@dragon.NUXI.org> >> "David O'Brien" writes: >> : On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 07:12:38PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: >> : > I'm >> : > glad JUNOS can build inside its own VM. Kudos. But given that the >> : > world is much more than a tightly controlled development environment >> : > at a well funded company, I think that we need to be more >> : > accommodating. Especially for the embedded world. >> : >> : A minor correctly - JUNOS builds on STOCK FreeBSD running in a VM. >> : JUNOS does not host its own build. >> : >> : How is building FreeBSD under stock FreeBSD affected by how well >> : funded an entity is? >> >> Setting up and managing dozens of VMs for engineers without privs can >> be problematic. We use an emulation environment at work and the vm >> images are constantly getting corrupted. >> >> Warner > > But that's because it's QEMU -- QEMU is crap compared to VMware > for x86 emulation still... QEMU/ppc is even worse, but it's the only > ppc emulator that's freely available out there. > -Garrett I take that back. There's PearPC and GXemul, but I'm pretty sure they're not as good as the prep port of QEMU. -Garrett