From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 13 19:10:28 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6136F3A9D40 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 19:10:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c20008599ae9.8c7b4dd65f27fe71030074be1048c694@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BSGNz2p58z3SFg for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 19:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c20008599ae9.8c7b4dd65f27fe71030074be1048c694@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1597345827; x=1599937827; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=B7twgWH0MipAzJOgmJS26SK2NMNyD/rce0zqgy/iYxs=; b=M9JRbDxJoXW8YgCdB5gfVoxjB3J6z0LK0UqNCeyqk44WGh8sIXJ1T4NhYShqgNar6dGVh0oQPKhTuQWETLx8UIWV4frpJ1orBu1dTxvVRu5AbJgT4uwwuA0wK+0mn02uVsXuMjkZvBzYK53JNwE9yGHc9OKeiefLyjXsroLyijM= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMjAwMDg1OTlhZTkuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.3]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 13 Aug 2020 15:10:16 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 13 Aug 2020 15:10:16 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1k6IcA-0005Ag-DZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:10:14 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:10:14 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Dealing with a hosting company with it's head up it's rear end Message-Id: <20200813201014.a2e212f17226084d6a0bfb94@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BSGNz2p58z3SFg X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=M9JRbDxJ; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c20008599ae9.8c7b4dd65f27fe71030074be1048c694@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c20008599ae9.8c7b4dd65f27fe71030074be1048c694@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.25 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.03)[-1.027]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.02)[-1.023]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.50)[-0.496]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c20008599ae9.8c7b4dd65f27fe71030074be1048c694@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org, 4250.82.1d4c20008599ae9.8c7b4dd65f27fe71030074be1048c694@email-od.com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 19:10:28 -0000 On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 14:56:43 -0400 Aryeh Friedman wrote: > The hosting company for one of our clients sent the following reply to > us/them when we asked them to setup end user accounts on a dedicated > Windows Server, FreeBSD box and CentOS box (all VM's on the same physical > machine with no other VM's on the physical machine) and being told we > needed scriptable access (not web based non-scriptable) to the windows > desktop and shell accounts (including the ability to sudo) and they agreed > to provide it: Do you have it in writing that they agreed to provide the access you require. If so you have a club your lawyer can beat their lawyer over the head with otherwise you're probably screwed. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith