From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Nov 11 17:09:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA10762 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:09:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.5.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10754 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:09:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA22448; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 18:09:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd022429; Tue Nov 11 18:08:58 1997 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA17561; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 18:08:50 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199711120108.SAA17561@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Newest Pentium bug (fatal) To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 01:08:50 +0000 (GMT) Cc: don@PartsNow.com, nate@mt.sri.com, tlambert@primenet.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com In-Reply-To: <199711112248.OAA06592@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Nov 11, 97 02:48:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Actually, I have a simpler question how can anyone describe > singularity -- where the laws of physics as we now today > breakdown. Assuming of course that black holes and singularity > exists.... A black hole is not a singularity, per se, except for the idea that that ds/dt goes to zero at the Schwartzchild Radius (which is inside the event horizon). If you think about it, once the escape velocity is the speed of light, then the Lorentz Transformation implies that all matter falling into the hole will cease experiencing time at that point. If it can't experience time, it can't experience velocity. The amount of time that would have to necessarily pass for it to reach this point exceeds by O(1) infinity the age of the universe. So technically, nothing has ever fallen *into* a "black hole" ...yet. 8-). Actually, it's no more nonsensical to think of pair anihillation in a black hole than it is to think of pair production at the edge of the event horizon (as we believe is happening at Cygnus XI). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.