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Date:      Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:58:22 -0400
From:      Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
To:        Jordan K Hubbard <jkh@queasyweasel.com>, jos@catnook.com
Cc:        freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: scripting language in base system?
Message-ID:  <p0511171ab959ff6f0d2b@[128.113.24.47]>
In-Reply-To: <C7D7163F-9894-11D6-BCA3-0003938C7B7E@queasyweasel.com>
References:  <C7D7163F-9894-11D6-BCA3-0003938C7B7E@queasyweasel.com>

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At 1:19 AM -0700 7/16/02, Jordan K Hubbard wrote:
>Guys,
>
>If libh ever makes it off the ground, you can bet that Tcl will
>enter the base system fairly rapidly since it will be required
>for everything from bootstrapping packages onto the system to
>actually installing the system itself.

>I also agree that Tcl has had a rocky history in terms of its
>upgrade strategy, but, for better or worse, development of the
>language seems to have reached a plateau with 8.4 and API
>stability ever since 8.0 was released has been pretty good, so
>I think the old arguments are simply outdated.

When I think about something like this, I wonder if we should
put tcl into the system under some unique name ("tclb"?), just
so *we* can decide if the base-system tcl will change when the
next great tcl API shows up.  [the same would apply to ruby or
python in the base system]

One of the big pains with perl in the base system was that we
wanted that perl to remain stable (at least for the entire
lifetime of a freebsd-stable branch), while anyone who used
perl heavily would want new versions of perl as they became
stable.  Ie, perl's "stable branch" is not on the same timetable
as freebsd's.

-- 
Garance Alistair Drosehn            =   gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer           or  gad@freebsd.org
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute    or  drosih@rpi.edu

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