Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 23:16:30 -0600 From: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> To: Laurence Berland <stuyman@confusion.net> Cc: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, Frank Pawlak <fpawlak@execpc.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: You've lost it (was Re:No port of Opera? (Was: ((FreeBSD :Linux) :: (OS/2:Windows)))) Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000708230835.04f8e930@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3967D830.F8F0E918@confusion.net> References: <54397.962948030@localhost> <Your message of "Thu, 06 Jul 2000 23:08:47 MDT." <4.3.2.7.2.20000706225433.0475b4d0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20000707004910.046d9ab0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20000707211520.00d4a5d0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20000708184514.04dbd220@localhost>
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At 07:41 PM 7/8/2000, Laurence Berland wrote: >> >for a second. If it's bad to use emulators, if it hurts your platform >> >of choice, then why on earth do you think that a Linux user would be >> >fooled into using FreeBSD emulation? >> >> Because they will mistake it for a feature. > >At a bare minimum that's a naive assumption, Why? It appears that many FreeBSD users have. >and at worst it's an insult to the intelligence of Linux users. If so, then you must believe FreeBSD users not to be intelligent. > Just because they don't prefer the >OS that you and I prefer doesn't mean they aren't smart enough to see >this as what it is. The only reason they would adopt this emulation is >if we can show them real gain through its use. Again, you miss the point. It is developers who will see great advantage in using the emulation and are likely to adopt it. >Fragmentation is irrelevant, It is very relevant. A common API and a common ABI are a solution to the fragmentation problems which are beginning to plague the plethora of Linux distributions. >The closest reference to an exit strategy I could find in any of your >posts is " >3) Once the FreeBSD API is established as a general-purpose API for >UNIX-like OSes, drop the Linux emulation for good." which seems to be >utopian. It is not utopian at all. Developers WANT a single ABI and API so that they can limit the number of binaries they have to build and the number of SKUs they must carry. They will rally around this. The rest of your message is an insulting ad hominem attack and not worthy of a reply. --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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