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Date:      Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:50:18 -0600
From:      "J.D. Bronson" <jbronson@wixb.com>
To:        "Donald J. O'Neill" <donaldj1066@fastmail.fm>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc:        Chris Hodgins <chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk>
Subject:   Re: repost of boot issue on 5.3
Message-ID:  <6.2.1.2.2.20050205184507.0221ce40@cheyenne.wixb.com>
In-Reply-To: <200502051841.51520.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm>
References:  <6.2.1.2.2.20050205170724.00c56c78@cheyenne.wixb.com> <42055475.5020807@cis.strath.ac.uk> <6.2.1.2.2.20050205172020.00c5db48@cheyenne.wixb.com> <200502051841.51520.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm>

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At 06:41 PM 2/5/2005, Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
>On Saturday 05 February 2005 05:20 pm, J.D. Bronson wrote:
> > At 05:19 PM 2/5/2005, Chris Hodgins wrote:
> > >J.D. Bronson wrote:
> > >>No one responded - I am sure someone out there knows what the deal
> > >> is here... I did a full install from CDROM on a fresh new clean
> > >> drive. Freebsd is the ONLY OS on the drive. And i used the entire
> > >> drive. I selected the standard boot manager (not the freebsd
> > >> one)...
>
>Hi J.D.
>
>As I read what you've said above, it appears that the problem is that
>you don't have a boot manager installed on the hard drive. The manual
>says that for what you have - one hard drive, only FreeBSD - you don't
>need the FreeBSD boot manager. However, if you did have the FreeBSD
>boot manager installed, it would boot up the way you want. Mine does.
>
>
> > >> and all the install went fine. This is what I see when I
> > >> reboot after install:
> > >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
> > >>Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader
> > >>boot:
> > >>
> > >>..and it JUST SITS there. If I hit the return key, it will boot up
> > >> into the beastie menu and boot fine. How can I get this machine to
> > >> boot up on its OWN?
>
>On the other hand, how long are you waiting before becoming impatient
>and hitting return?
>
> > >>The boot startup sequence on the machine is HARD DRIVE THEN CDROM.
> > >>This is the only hard drive in the system.
> > >>Please if anyone knows how to fix this?? - A fresh install with a
> > >> fresh drive....and still no luck.
> > >
> > >This might give you a few ideas. :)
> > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-block
> > >s.html#BOOT-BOOT1
> > >
> > >Chris
> >
> > I tried this (even tho a full install it SHOULD not be needed) and I
> > still get the same darn thing. I am really disappointed as I dont
> > know why its hanging.
>
>When you first set it up, did you make the drive bootable, then select
>no boot manager?
>
>--
>Donald J. O'Neill
>donaldj1066@fastmail.fm
>
>I'm not totally useless,
>I can be used as a bad example.


I just created a PR on this issue. It has to do with whether or not the 2nd 
IDE channel is enabled -or- if there is a drive on it.

When I did the install - I selected the MIDDLE option "Install a standard 
MBR" as I usually do.

This is really weird. I never have seen this before. Maybe someone else has.

Here is the description of my PR:

Using 5.3 release is when I 1st noticed this. CVSup to 5.3-STABLE does not 
fix this trouble.

If both IDE channels are enabled and they are all set to AUTO/AUTO for 
master/slave and there is no drive (yet) installed to IDE channel2, the 
machine hangs at boot. If I install a drive to IDE channel2, the machine boots.

If I disable IDE channel2, the machine will boot.

When it hangs, all I see on the console is:

FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader
boot:

...if I hit <return> at this point, the beastie menu comes up.
The machine will NOT boot on it's own.





-- 
J.D. Bronson
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Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282
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