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Date:      Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:18:12 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Daniel Eischen <eischen@vigrid.com>
To:        Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu>
Cc:        Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu>, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Rsh/Rlogin/Rcmd & friends
Message-ID:  <Pine.SUN.3.91.1000915165626.99A-100000@pcnet1.pcnet.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000915153602.S40658@radon.gryphonsoft.com>

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On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Will Andrews wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 04:24:23PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote:
> > > What consequences?  Remember, we'll still have ports for these things.
> > > It only matters as far as new installations go.  Post-install operations
> > > are unimportant.
> > 
> > Wrong.  If that were true tcsh wouldn't be in the base system today.
> 
> You misinterpreted me.  I meant in this specific case, post-install
> operation doesn't matter.  People can use ssh to get in the machines to
> do things rsh/rlogin/rcmd offer.

No, you haven't proven to me that removal of rsh/rlogin/rcmd doesn't
break anything like remote backups.  As Steve Kargl wrote:

> > What are the consequences of your proposal with the use of
> > rdump/rrestore from another (non-FreeBSD) machine into a
> > tape drive equipped FreeBSD box?

To me that means that something that use to work "out of the box" will
not work without adding the necessary port(s).  Sure, you can argue that
you can easily install the port, but the same could be said to folks
that wanted tcsh as their default shell.

-- 
Dan Eischen



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