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Date:      Mon, 14 Oct 2019 14:18:18 -0500
From:      "Clay Daniels Jr." <clay.daniels.jr@gmail.com>
To:        "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net>
Cc:        Tomasz CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>,  "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>,  "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com>, freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: AMD Secure Encrypted Virtualization - FreeBSD Status?
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Simon, please do elaborate more on your implementation. I suspect you are
talking about libsecureboot? I have played with the generation of certs
with OpenSSL & LibreSSL, but libsecureboot seems to take a different
approach. Please tell us more.

Clay

On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 1:52 PM Simon J. Gerraty via freebsd-security <
freebsd-security@freebsd.org> wrote:

> Tomasz CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> wrote:
>
> > would be really nice also to get UEFI BOOT compatible with SECURE BOOT
> :-)
>
> Unless you are using your own BIOS, the above means getting Microsoft
> to sign boot1.efi or similar. Shims that simply work around lack of
> acceptible signature don't help.
>
> That would need to then verify loader.efi - which can be built to
> to verify all the modules and kernel.
>
> In my implementation (uses the non efi loader) trust anchors are
> embedded in loader but there is code in current to lookup trust anchors
> in /efi I think which would be more generally useful - I've not looked
> at the attack vectors that introduces though.
>
> --sjg
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