From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Oct 24 18:11:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF66C1FE8D for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 18:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from core-secretary@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BA67256 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 18:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from core-secretary@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 728E1E02F for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 18:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/728E1E02F; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: misc/jive deleted To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20161022024510.7cvnhc2fdh7h7arh@ozzmosis.com> <20161022092738.GA5690@lonesome.com> <14ff8102-d360-507e-a03b-2ed07b4a5823@aldan.algebra.com> <20161023160352.GX51420@home.opsec.eu> <8a01de23-0e4a-b7d9-cd3b-d6e1e4f44c3f@aldan.algebra.com> <20161024155111.GB15256@lonesome.com> From: FreeBSD Core Secretary Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 19:11:31 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8EvV4e16nvJKF7X7E2RjLGFJduP8DdrH5" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 18:11:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --8EvV4e16nvJKF7X7E2RjLGFJduP8DdrH5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="53r6EsfgwmefOEcLswvS7nXw7wvLkSevQ"; protected-headers="v1" From: FreeBSD Core Secretary To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: misc/jive deleted References: <20161022024510.7cvnhc2fdh7h7arh@ozzmosis.com> <20161022092738.GA5690@lonesome.com> <14ff8102-d360-507e-a03b-2ed07b4a5823@aldan.algebra.com> <20161023160352.GX51420@home.opsec.eu> <8a01de23-0e4a-b7d9-cd3b-d6e1e4f44c3f@aldan.algebra.com> <20161024155111.GB15256@lonesome.com> In-Reply-To: --53r6EsfgwmefOEcLswvS7nXw7wvLkSevQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24/10/2016 17:11, Mikhail T. wrote: > Now that we are done with the hairsplitting, and I shall put the port > back as soon as I have a moment -- unless someone else beats me to it. >=20 > I'd also like to ask portmgr@ to avoid taking such steps in the future > -- inventing a policy in order to immediately act on it. Though we do > not have a strict separation of powers, portmgr@ is primarily an > executive body -- and should defer "lawmaking" to the wider audience of= > committers, however cantankerous we may be. >=20 > Portmgr's mandate is to ensure, ports continue to build smoothly despit= e > changes to the OS and other ports. Policing the contents is a > regrettable overreach (a.k.a. "powergrab"). Hi, Mikhail and everyone else involved here, The misc/jive port was actually removed at the request of core@. Please can you raise your concerns with core privately, rather than letting this thread get out of hand (as it seems likely to do) in public. 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