From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 7 13:40:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA04825 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 13:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA04802 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 13:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA03112; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 22:08:29 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199706072008.WAA03112@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: ETinc's Bandwidth limiter To: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 22:08:28 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: manar@ivision.co.uk, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970607115021.00bbf338@etinc.com> from "dennis" at Jun 7, 97 11:50:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >It looks like what you want (bw management, or probably better, > >fair routing) should be done at the router, not at the server side. > >So what are you using to drive your pipe out ? > > There is no "fair routing" in a web farm unless everyone pays the same > price, which is ridiculous. Charge based on their bandwidth access > capability.. > and with the bandwidth manager there is not accounting headaches 'cause > they cant get more than they pay for. Dennis, this sounds like an overstatement. Fair does not necessarily mean 'all equals', there can be different weights for different users depending on how much they pay for, and the fairness is in making everyone get what he pays for. Hard limiting the bw for each user as you seem to suggest prevents eveyone from taking advantage of statistical multiplexing, which, given the burstiness of network traffic, is very rewarding for all. (well this is the "isp" not "hackers" so excuse me if I don't stick with what existing products do ... ) Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________