From owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Fri Jul 13 17:42:30 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6976C1045C8A for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x232.google.com (mail-it0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E249870A09 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x232.google.com with SMTP id a195-v6so12588151itd.3 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 10:42:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=qyO9DPTCT51zEYTu45MaiWsobMnJk+mOtqxWjYVxEQ8=; b=CzBcjT5g82K6IREEIQSgR3Qa3PPxPRP6+aeNNS0FW5cwC/aBghvllKsphWodo0HBTN FnVXq2RSPIOTh/UP7kskv5pnUEDylKBhCKodhwIMd092F90DWliJagD4cv4OO7Bs4vYk W003sLMJXh8iYsOi8zmOiuGbXYnUYjtr7FlpwuSv+Kbe1ZBfJBjmoOng76j0Xwp25ddF PJV3U3ocfBfB3+uwKv/KtBt22G0Y24cPnAfywZA8vXmUFDQCc7nqG3VdY0PWe7xzVecq matrDXjYmLfvH2+Z2n9XhUvrAXOsEvWZJx5nDHpy+B4SfIBjsf3bijjjnvQ4849yF76U 7lag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qyO9DPTCT51zEYTu45MaiWsobMnJk+mOtqxWjYVxEQ8=; b=JMfEArK5Ey1jF6GxUZmJ+dK2os/i8jRXE7Bv3s5kWOOSFC2vEbVL2l9odFQ4OwYEkm jk6n7GlClrJMyAqIh4Yh8b9YF660iu1JkoPSPKna/rVIVXo8kDuibSmeyH/zMtNumbPj 4x74EWm1wJQmkoppc8JnfNQBGRPN7yfpuwAF9ro+Imke5Dv4e62P5jUKCd3vi+SHsd7N +xTVzmR03XQQhqjGmwREpFtROlPU7Kyj67aNWTL6/lobLIeak3IFehyyzJtWF5YiKMKF nrG3EDJxOKGnQAja8mOaOgvbK7AzmbwrMekMOOiB/dYh34qZpMGm0adNSS7f653UgRBT dLrw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlEVG+T26bEN8M4BAiUjtJhiDsjjo05dvsUj9iNL+k38edZjroJp pDqqxVCxw9hMK8khle7KSPvpqLSbSYyoxWagt2sJiA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeUB+/uEX+WSaBuTJf1FnXoTX+8/HYCwNgOp8YPsf3pB1QVITcFsNMsMM20Vxmgi4+xFBBdHkFz1agqmN/n4Kw= X-Received: by 2002:a24:ad28:: with SMTP id c40-v6mr5553334itf.36.1531503749179; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 10:42:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 2002:a4f:1183:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 10:42:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: <20180713173520.GE40394@cicely7.cicely.de> References: <20180713171210.GD40394@cicely7.cicely.de> <20180713173520.GE40394@cicely7.cicely.de> From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 11:42:28 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Gl9Pp50B-40vKJF-cJ5UxxJVC0U Message-ID: Subject: Re: Retiring two more: Atmel and Xscale To: ticso@cicely.de Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:42:30 -0000 On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:16:52AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Bernd Walter > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:15:02PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > I'd like to retire Atmel and Xscale support prior to 12. The atmel > stuff > > > > has been dodgy for a long time and generally lacks the memory to run > > > > FreeBSD well. We have no current users of it. > > > > > > [1]beaver.cicely.de> uname -a > > > FreeBSD beaver.cicely.de 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Nov > 22 > > > 07:52:33 CET 2009 ticso@beaver.cicely.de:/mnt2/ > > > arm-2009-04-17/head/sys/arm/compile/BEAVER arm > > > > > > But yes, I think it is - unfortunately - a dead end with them and if I > > > ever intend to go for a more recent FreeBSD version I will also change > > > the hardware. > > > > > > Atmel does have a A5-based family, but nobody has done the work to port. > If > > someone does, we can mine the repo for driver code that will be a good > > starting point. > > I know - I have a devboard, but iit wasn't attractive to me as an > application SoC. > Yea. It's kinda cool, but not cool enough to be useful. > I do like and still use their ARM microcontroller series however. Cool.