From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Aug 1 09:59:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29203 for ports-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from george.arc.nasa.gov (george.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.194.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29193 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:59:20 -0700 (PDT) From: lamaster@george.arc.nasa.gov Received: by george.arc.nasa.gov (8.8.6/1.35) id JAA09126; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708011657.JAA09126@george.arc.nasa.gov> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This is truly a sad day. The irony of this all is that it really > didn't have to happen, and it would have been possible for us to > support both 3.0-current and 2.2-stable if more consideration has been > made before some commits into -current. For instance, there is no : Since I am running both 2.2 and 3.0-current, I am indeed sorry to hear this. I hope that it turns out to be a temporary condition. Obviously, 2.2-stable has to continue to be supported, but, mention has been made of past releases such as 2.0.5, 2.1, 2.1.5, and 2.1.7. Personally, I think it is time to "de-support" these. Obviously, many people will continue to run some of them for a long time, but 2.2 should be a doable upgrade for almost everyone. If people are getting stretched too thin, it is time to focus on 2.2. [And 3.0, if it can again be made to work.] > Yours truly, > Satoshi and the awesome Ports Team The state of the awesome ports and packages, the ease of installation of them, and the integration of those packages with the kernel(s), were the reasons why I personally chose FreeBSD over linux or NetBSD. As a FreeBSD newbie, it appears to me that only FreeBSD has a server-quality kernel *combined* with a clean and integrated set of almost all the packages a Unix die-hard expects - and, usually, expects to have to build personally. IF you care mainly about the kernel, NetBSD is a more than credible effort. IF you care mainly about lots of packages, linux is the competition. NetBSD and linux have put a lot of effort into clean support of many architectures, an effort I wholeheartedly applaud, but, in the meantime, FreeBSD's focus on x86 has facilitated the off-the-shelf ports/packages, a major advantage for some of us. So, thanks from a grateful FreeBSD user to the ports/packages team for their fine efforts in the past, and, I hope that any disagreements are temporary and can be patched up over a few beers at some local watering hole. Hugh LaMaster Apologies in advance for any misinformation contained herein. Hugh LaMaster, M/S 258-5, ASCII Email: hlamaster@mail.arc.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center Or: lamaster@nas.nasa.gov Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 No Junkmail: USC 18 section 2701 Phone: 415/604-1056 Disclaimer: Unofficial, personal *opinion*.