From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 18 11:05:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171A31065692 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:05:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E108FC15 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1IB5k4m025817 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:05:47 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B7D1F0A.6010804@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:05:46 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20100218100632.GA60258@comcast.net> <87zl36etg6.fsf@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <87zl36etg6.fsf@kobe.laptop> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: LinuxBSDos.com article X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:05:53 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 18/02/2010 10:20, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 02:06:32 -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: >> http://linuxbsdos.com/2010/02/18/pc-bsds-graphical-firewall-manager/ >> >> "PC-BSD is ... the only BSD-based distribution that's in a position to >> compete with the best Linux desktop distributions..." >> >> > > This is a pretty realistic way to put it, IMO. Note that, to PC-BSD's > credit, it is compares with the *best* Linux distributions. That's a > nice way of saying how cool PC-BSD is :-) Interesting though that the feature he chooses to highlight is the PF configuration applet. Sure PF knocks the socks off ipchains and the other packet filters available under Linux, but judging by what he shows, the configuration applet simplifies things so much it doesn't really expose any of the bits that make PF special. That applet could generate configs for just about any packet filter in existence with no change to the user interface. Saying "there's this really great firewall on PC-BSD, but the configuration app doesn't let you use it very well" doesn't really strike me as a positive statement about PC-BSD. Perhaps there's an "I know what I'm doing" button somewhere yet to be mentioned which enables managing more complicated stuff? Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt9HwoACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxwYQCfd4ga2Zp8d9UNVUG9vfmMBMOx FfcAn1hjwtCVfFZgl4A+LWSdmje2rnlj =f3pv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----