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Date:      Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:32:48 -0600
From:      Scott Long <scott4long@yahoo.com>
To:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>
Cc:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>, "current@freebsd.org" <current@freebsd.org>, Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org>, Rui Paulo <rpaulo@felyko.com>, "net@freebsd.org" <net@freebsd.org>, darrenr@freebsd.org, "cpet@sdf.org" <cpet@sdf.org>
Subject:   Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer
Message-ID:  <38F315FF-07D3-451C-9811-D4CF89E9EB8E@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <201304151927.r3FJRtq9002799@slippy.cwsent.com>
References:  <201304151927.r3FJRtq9002799@slippy.cwsent.com>

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On Apr 15, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com> =
wrote:

> In message <A2450361-D9E9-498F-AD44-846563EF04CB@yahoo.com>, Scott =
Long=20
> writes:
>>=20
>> On Apr 15, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com> =
wrote:
>>=20
>>> In message <18DF99B0-6E66-4906-A233-7778451B8A92@felyko.com>, Rui =
Paulo=20
>>> writes:
>>>> 2013/04/15 9:55=1B$B!"=1B(BCy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com> =
=1B$B$N%a%C%;!<%8=1B
>> (B:
>>>>=20
>>>>> I've been planning on taking on IP Filter for quite some time.=20
>>>>> Unfortunately I've left my src commit bit lapse (my ports commit =
bit is=20
>>>>> alive and well though) thus I'm looking for a mentor. In addition =
I'm=20
>>>>> working on an ACER WMI/ACPI kld. One mentor would be preferred but =
two=20
>>>>> would be fine too.
>>>>=20
>>>> What are your plans regarding ipfilter? I remain unconvinced that =
it shoul
>> d b
>>>> e in the base system. Perhaps you can work on it as a port?
>>>=20
>>> The initial plan was to import IP Filter 5.1.2 into HEAD. darrenr@ =
hadn't=20
>>> done much with IPF while employed with Sun. Since then there has =
been some=20
>>> development that is long overdue for HEAD.
>>>=20
>>> I'm not sure if I'd MFC it into 9 or not.
>>>=20
>>> I did consider a port but given it would has to touch bits and =
pieces of=20
>>> the source tree (/usr/src), a port would be messy and the decision =
was made
>>=20
>>> to work on importing it into base.
>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Why do you want to work on something that people have been trying =
to remov
>> e s
>>>> ince 2005?
>>>=20
>>> I and others have been using it in FreeBSD for over decade. For the =
longest
>>=20
>>> of time we'd use a common set of rules across a FreeBSD and Solaris =
farm=20
>>> (using ipfmeta, makefiles, rsync, rdist, and a local CVS repo).=20
>>> Interoperability with other systems which use IP Filter is a plus. =
If=20
>>> there's a maintainer, it only makes FreeBSD richer. Losing IP Filter =
would=20
>>> be a loss.
>>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> If you're committed to maintaining IPFilter, that's great.  However, =
it can't
>> be
>> left to stagger along in a  zombie state with nothing more than good =
intentio
>> ns
>> from well meaning people.  What is your timeline for getting it back =
into sha
>> pe
>> and re-integrating yourself into the committer community?
>=20
> I would think this would be my top priority right now. I'd like to see =
it=20
> at the latest level in HEAD. I would like to MFC to 9-STABLE at some =
point.
>=20
> Given that IPF already lives in src/contrib and src/sys/contrib, would =
the=20
> change in License from Darren Reed's own not so BSD friendly IPF =
license to=20
> GPLv2 be of concern. I recall there was a lot of concern over IPF's =
license=20
> change at the time. (FreeBSD moved it to contrib while OpenBSD removed =
it=20
> completely and wrote PF -- I'm not sure what NetBSD did).
>=20


I would assume that the license change would be OK, especially since the =
other
option is to remove it (or let it continue to rot and be an eyesore) but =
I'll defer to those like
Gleb and Rui with a more vested interest in it.

Scott




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