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Date:      Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:52:01 -0800
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To:        "Joe & Fhe Barbish" <barbish@a1poweruser.com>
Cc:        "FBSD Questions" <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Network Issue
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The 10baseT hub is builtin to the Efficient router, guess I should have =
explained that originally.

The reason I use two nics is the fact that the Efficient only supports =
10mb, and I want 100mb on my LAN.  So rl0 is my outside interface, =
running at 10mb.  The internal interface, rl1 is running at 100mb and =
connected to my 2 windows machines via a 3com 100mb ONLY hub.  As you =
can see I am somewhat limited in my hubs, a 10mb only hub and a 100mb =
only hub.. :) so that is the reason I have the setup I do.  If I had =
better hubs, I suppose I could just alias the two addresses, but none =
the less.

I do have two nic cards installed, two realtek type cards (don't have =
specific models)

rl0 (outside) 216.36.73.6
rl1 (inside) 216.36.71.1
win98 box 216.36.71.2
winXP box 216.36.71.3

216.36.71.x is my internal subnet
216.36.73.6 is part of a /30 block, no other machines are on this =
subnet, just the router.

Apache originally was only setup to listen on rl0 (outside).  I thought =
I may have had some type of routing issue which was causing slow =
performance.  So I setup Apache to listen on the inside too.=20

My reasoning as to why it is not Apache but some type of OS =
configuration issue would be that I get similiar bandwidth patterns via =
FTP.

Thank you for your response.  Let me know what you think.

-- Kevin

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Joe & Fhe Barbish=20
  To: MegaPath=20
  Cc: FBSD Questions=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:12 PM
  Subject: RE: Network Issue


  This layout is to vague, fill in some details. See no reason for =
hub(10baset) and should't FreeBDS1 need two nic cards, one for =
connection to dsl line and one out to private network. Tell what =
functions are running where. Where are the win boxes? Give address =
ranges.

  =20

  DSL line -> Efficient Router -> Hub (10baseT) -> FreeBSD1 (rl0) ->
  (routed) -> FreeBSD2 (rl1) -> Hub (100baseT) -> Local Machines

  =20

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG =
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of MegaPath
  Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:35 PM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Network Issue

  =20

  I apologize if this message has been sent to the incorrect list.

  To anyone that may assist,
      I have an issue on a FreeBSD machine acting as a firewall/router =
with 2
  NICs.  Here is my configuration

  Running 4.3-release
  Pentium 2 - 350mhz, 128mb RAM
  6gb hard drive with less than 25% used on all slices
  2 network cards, Realtek type, (rl0 and rl1)
  Routable IPs on both interfaces, using routed
  rl0 200.200.200.6, default gateway 200.200.200.5
  rl1 200.200.201.1
  2.3mb SDSL line
  IPFW is running, no queues enabled.  Basic port blocking only
  Running Apache 1.3.20 on rl0

  Physical setup:
  DSL line -> Efficient Router -> Hub (10baseT) -> FreeBSD (rl0) ->
  (routed) -> FreeBSD (rl1) -> Hub (100baseT) -> Local Machines

  Tests
  Win98 machine at 200.200.200.2, goes to internet server and downloads =
file
  at full bandwidth.
  WinXP machine at 200.200.200.3, full bandwidth when going to popular
  download site on the net.

  Win98 machine to Apache server running on rl0, download 30-40k/sec =
max.
  Win98 machine ftp to rl0, download 30-40k/sec max, upload 600-700k/sec
  WinXP machine to Apache server running on rl0, download 30-40k/sec =
max.
  WinXP not tested on ftp to rl0.

  External machine (a friend) running Win98 to Apache server running on =
rl0
  via DSL, download 150+k/sec.

  So I am deducing there is a problem somewhere in the routing of data =
between
  rl0 and rl1 to my internal Win98 machine since it is affecting not =
only http
  but ftp traffic as well.  I have tried removing all IPFW rules to see =
if
  maybe they are clogging up the system, no change.

  I have asked a few other more experienced admins to see if they have =
any
  ideas.  Besides suspected hardware issues no ideas come up.

  Any ideas?  I am dying here! :)  Thank you for any response and again =
I
  apologize if this was sent to the wrong list.

  -- Kevin


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 10baseT hub is builtin to the =
Efficient router,=20
guess I should have explained that originally.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I use two nics is the fact =
that the=20
Efficient only supports 10mb, and I want 100mb on my LAN.&nbsp; So rl0 =
is my=20
outside interface, running at 10mb.&nbsp; The internal interface, rl1 is =
running=20
at 100mb and connected to my 2 windows machines via a 3com 100mb ONLY =
hub.&nbsp;=20
</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As you can see I am somewhat limited =
in my hubs,=20
a 10mb only hub and a 100mb only hub.. :) so that is the reason I have =
the setup=20
I do.&nbsp; If I had better hubs, I suppose I could just alias the two=20
addresses, but none the less.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I do have two nic cards installed, two =
realtek type=20
cards (don't have specific models)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rl0 (outside) 216.36.73.6</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rl1 (inside) 216.36.71.1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>win98 box 216.36.71.2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>winXP box 216.36.71.3</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>216.36.71.x is my internal =
subnet</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>216.36.73.6 is part of a&nbsp;/30 =
block, no other=20
machines are on this subnet, just the router.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Apache originally was only setup to =
listen on rl0=20
(outside).&nbsp; I thought I may have had some type of routing issue =
which was=20
causing slow performance.&nbsp; So I setup Apache to listen on the =
inside=20
too.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My reasoning as to why it is not Apache =
but some=20
type of OS configuration issue would be that I get similiar bandwidth =
patterns=20
via FTP.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you for your response.&nbsp; Let =
me know what=20
you think.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-- Kevin</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dbarbish@a1poweruser.com =
href=3D"mailto:barbish@a1poweruser.com">Joe=20
  &amp; Fhe Barbish</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dfreebsd@three56.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:freebsd@three56.com">MegaPath</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dquestions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
  href=3D"mailto:questions@FreeBSD.ORG">FBSD Questions</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 10, =
2002 12:12=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Network =
Issue</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle15><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"=20
  color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">This layout is =
to vague,=20
  fill in some details. See no reason for hub(10baset) and =
should&#8217;t FreeBDS1=20
  need two nic cards, one for connection to dsl line and one out to =
private=20
  network. Tell what functions are running where. Where are the win =
boxes? Give=20
  address ranges.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle15><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"=20
  color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; =
mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><![if =
!supportEmptyParas]><![endif]>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" color=3Dblue =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">DSL line -&gt; Efficient Router =
-&gt; Hub=20
  (10baseT) -&gt; FreeBSD1 (rl0) -&gt;<BR>(routed) -&gt; FreeBSD2 (rl1) =
-&gt;=20
  Hub (100baseT) -&gt; Local Machines</SPAN></FONT><SPAN=20
  class=3DEmailStyle15><FONT color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: =
10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle15><FONT face=3D"Courier =
New"=20
  color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; =
mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><![if =
!supportEmptyParas]><![endif]>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3Dblack=20
  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
  owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
  [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]<B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of =
</SPAN></B>MegaPath<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, January 10, =
2002 2:35=20
  PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Network =
Issue</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><![if =
!supportEmptyParas]><![endif]>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
  color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">I =
apologize if=20
  this message has been sent to the incorrect list.<BR><BR>To anyone =
that may=20
  assist,<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have an issue on a FreeBSD machine =
acting as a=20
  firewall/router with 2<BR>NICs.&nbsp; Here is my =
configuration<BR><BR>Running=20
  4.3-release<BR>Pentium 2 - 350mhz, 128mb RAM<BR>6gb hard drive with =
less than=20
  25% used on all slices<BR>2 network cards, Realtek type, (rl0 and=20
  rl1)<BR>Routable IPs on both interfaces, using routed<BR>rl0 =
200.200.200.6,=20
  default gateway 200.200.200.5<BR>rl1 200.200.201.1<BR>2.3mb SDSL =
line<BR>IPFW=20
  is running, no queues enabled.&nbsp; Basic port blocking =
only<BR>Running=20
  Apache 1.3.20 on rl0<BR><BR>Physical setup:<BR>DSL line -&gt; =
Efficient Router=20
  -&gt; Hub (10baseT) -&gt; FreeBSD (rl0) -&gt;<BR>(routed) -&gt; =
FreeBSD (rl1)=20
  -&gt; Hub (100baseT) -&gt; Local Machines<BR><BR>Tests<BR>Win98 =
machine at=20
  200.200.200.2, goes to internet server and downloads file<BR>at full=20
  bandwidth.<BR>WinXP machine at 200.200.200.3, full bandwidth when =
going to=20
  popular<BR>download site on the net.<BR><BR>Win98 machine to Apache =
server=20
  running on rl0, download 30-40k/sec max.<BR>Win98 machine ftp to rl0, =
download=20
  30-40k/sec max, upload 600-700k/sec<BR>WinXP machine to Apache server =
running=20
  on rl0, download 30-40k/sec max.<BR>WinXP not tested on ftp to=20
  rl0.<BR><BR>External machine (a friend) running Win98 to Apache server =
running=20
  on rl0<BR>via DSL, download 150+k/sec.<BR><BR>So I am deducing there =
is a=20
  problem somewhere in the routing of data between<BR>rl0 and rl1 to my =
internal=20
  Win98 machine since it is affecting not only http<BR>but ftp traffic =
as=20
  well.&nbsp; I have tried removing all IPFW rules to see if<BR>maybe =
they are=20
  clogging up the system, no change.<BR><BR>I have asked a few other =
more=20
  experienced admins to see if they have any<BR>ideas.&nbsp; Besides =
suspected=20
  hardware issues no ideas come up.<BR><BR>Any ideas?&nbsp; I am dying =
here!=20
  :)&nbsp; Thank you for any response and again I<BR>apologize if this =
was sent=20
  to the wrong list.<BR><BR>-- Kevin</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML=
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