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Date:      Tue, 21 May 2019 11:53:43 +0100
From:      Dima Pasechnik <dimpase+freebsd@gmail.com>
To:        Sulev-Madis Silber <madis555@hot.ee>
Cc:        "rainer@ultra-secure.de" <rainer@ultra-secure.de>, Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk>,  FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Core Team Response to Controversial Social Media Posts
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On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 4:54 PM Sulev-Madis Silber <madis555@hot.ee> wrote:
>
> the discussion somehow diverted away from original idea...
>
> as i'm not politically correct person at all, i say that single report is
> not enough...

I'd second this report any time, if this is needed.

There should be no whitewashing of Twitter hate speech like the one on
http://phk.freebsd.dk/sagas/israel/
coming from freebsd.* domain. It has nothing to so with freedom of
speech etc, it's simply harmful for the project.

> it doesn't matter if legit or troll...
> it's also quite wrong if case gets special attention just because offended
> person adds that (s)he's discriminated because x

If you read my other email on this topic
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2019-May/073464.html
you might understand why "I hate X", with "X" a particular ethnic group,
in FreeBSD context is not a good idea.


>
> i actually find it weird why the problem can't be directed to specific
> person... why do we need to turn it into "against group" issue
>
>
> On Monday, May 20, 2019, <rainer@ultra-secure.de> wrote:
> > Am 2019-05-20 11:33, schrieb Igor Mozolevsky:
> >>
> >> So you think a discussion on whether it is appropriate that CoC Ctte
> >> restricts freedom of expression is bikeshedding?
> >>
> >> Thank you for your valuable contribution!
> >
> >
> > IMO, the CoC was not meant to solve, decide or even regulate discussion
> about decades-old, very controversial geo-political problems.
> >
> > As such, I don't think it even applies here and the complaint should be
> dismissed on these grounds.
> >
> > Of course, the FreeBSD project is free to boot developers from its ranks
> more or less at will (not sure if you can sue your way back in) - but for
> that a new CoC wouldn't have been needed to begin with ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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