From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 00:52:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59871065670 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tbcrew@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622BF8FC0C for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so7321955wyj.13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:52:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language:x-cr-hashedpuzzle :x-cr-puzzleid; bh=jEDJjZ+Mub16p3EoYMtnDmhsy4IQvGuzNzmp69Frrqs=; b=NHYc9BMiNQdF04gbLt3c5CmpIKEEITSMK07gf44Gs8ePAYKYXLe+IV6DoafsHNZoxG hkEK3IMvpzXq2gdQ6vqS/W3MtNEtn1IlL0VpT4D5cLvXkUFWFWM61jM6keJRetCFmPe0 G0Bfhu1uPfzqSdRc/8PegBrY4NXvcV7GrDaWQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language :x-cr-hashedpuzzle:x-cr-puzzleid; b=G5kOdUIRYFK3/0Tv72YVr/dKRKTBNsZjqx1FywbFprmrqM7Owize5BB+C/31T4QWHs jA65cz+aFqCwP3NGDqmKECu++PcMB53aS75S2EApiGaY+Qf1WbisgBH/JtejmUQJK5Pt Y4IU/QEb6+KuisIxOFJxE6Whq2NnjfMpJCvuA= Received: by 10.216.6.149 with SMTP id 21mr1890637wen.101.1282523327837; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mine (i-195-137-12-155.freedom2surf.net [195.137.12.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v16sm3273478weq.8.2010.08.22.17.28.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:28:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Garry" To: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:25:34 +0100 Message-ID: <008c01cb425a$2603bc60$720b3520$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: ActCWXS/y9wWvpl4QsK/2WqHNoegFw== Content-Language: en-gb x-cr-hashedpuzzle: Jqc= AKPh AUyf Aqeq BdBn B+Hv CV0f DJ5W DVmi DtSI F71M GZnV Gj/M HM0m HYTr Ijln; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {F86D80C0-D81F-4DC8-A156-FB62466497BE}; dABiAGMAcgBlAHcAQABnAG0AYQBpAGwALgBjAG8AbQA=; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:23:48 GMT; SQBzACAAdABoAGkAcwAgAGIAdQBuAGsALgA= x-cr-puzzleid: {F86D80C0-D81F-4DC8-A156-FB62466497BE} Cc: Subject: Is this bunk. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:52:34 -0000 This is a conversation held on a UK group page, can you confirm or deny this as twaddle. Mac OS X is basically BSD that's been appleised (serious vendor lock-in), they do give a little back to BSDs, but have made sure that BSDs can't get much off of them, but they can get a lot out of BSD. Also, Windows uses (or used to use) a BSD stack for networking for instance. So, in supporting/using BDS i would enevatibaly end up writing code for it, or filing bugs or whatever. (I have assisted with a few Linux drivers and written kernel patches, as well as working on things like DirectX 3D 9 for Wine and work on KDE etc...) Having seen how BDS license software has been used, to create highly tied in, almost crippled proprietary software, I do not feel that I can support software developed under such licenses. Web-Kit has actually worked quite well as an open system, even though Apple done a hostile take over of the project from KHTML in KDE. So, the GPL has worked to produce an open product in Web-kit but the BSD license has lead to vendor lock-in on the part of Microsoft and most significantly Apple. This does not mean to say that I have a problem with the quality of the code in BSD, I just feel that the license is counter productive.