From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Nov 23 05:04:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA23905 for chat-outgoing; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:04:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA23896 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:04:02 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Lehey Received: from freebie.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vRHjH-000QuLC; Sat, 23 Nov 96 14:02 MET Received: (grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.de (8.8.3/8.6.12) id KAA04440; Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:39:24 +0100 (MET) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Message-Id: <199611230939.KAA04440@freebie.lemis.de> Subject: Re: ATAPI (was: Who needs Perl? We do!) In-Reply-To: <199611230020.RAA16257@phaeton.artisoft.com> from Terry Lambert at "Nov 22, 96 05:20:04 pm" To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:39:24 +0100 (MET) Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Chat) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (Moved to -chat) Terry Lambert writes: >>> FWIW: >>> >>> Our company just bought a bunch of Micron machines. They are all SCSI, >>> and they were not special order. >> >> I'm assuming they were part of the "high-end" line at Micron -- I just >> checked their ads and they ship SCSI on the high-end line. THis makes >> sense.. but the point is that anyone buying the best in a PC _should_ know >> the advantages of SCSI, and will probably request SCSI if the machine >> doesn't ship with SCSI by default. Still, most people (I'd best 90% of >> PC's sold today) are shipped with ATAPI CDROMS -- and EIDE hard drives. >> When I was saying ALL, I meant damn near ALL... > > My only point was that this is apparently changing... and basing > a decision on "this is the way it always has been, so this is the > way it will always be" is a bad idea in general, and seems to be > becoming false in this particular case. Assuming the Micron change > from ATAPI to SCSI on their high end represents a trend. Yes, I've seen other indications of this. It might mark a trend towards maturity in the market: even Micosloth users are gradually asking why this expensive "operating system" keeps crashing, and people with multimedia applications probably wonder why programs sometimes hang for half a second before continuing. The German trade magazines (not necessarily reliable) claim that there's a trend towards SCSI, too. Greg