From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 09:40:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E6216A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:40:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from thingy.apana.org.au (thingy.apana.org.au [203.12.237.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0736D43D46 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:40:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fun@thingy.apana.org.au) Received: from fun by thingy.apana.org.au with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CzAoC-00073R-00 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:40:24 +1100 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:40:23 +1100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050210094023.GA21722@thingy.apana.org.au> References: <20050210055117.GA96699@keyslapper.net> <108284711.20050210103325@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <108284711.20050210103325@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: David Gerard Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such asNetBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:40:30 -0000 Anthony Atkielski (atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) [050210 20:34]: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > > Yep, I was wondering how long it would take before someone figured > > this one out. We know the real rea$on$ that this logo change is > > being contemplated, don't we. > Personally, I wonder how FreeBSD survives based exclusively on volunteer > efforts. It's a noble idea, but in the real world, things cost money, > and people need to earn a living. Something that survives exclusively > from the kindness of strangers leads a fragile existence. FreeBSD has a > large following and seems reasonably stable, but when something is a > volunteer effort, the larger the following, the better. Netcraft confirms it: FreeBSD is dying! I'd rather see effort towards some of the really *stupid* bugs in 5.x that languish for months with a fix included. Like linux-pango being broken, meaning that by default you can't actually run a lot of recent Linux binaries (a Thunderbird nightly got me on that one). Or /etc/fstab allowing msdos as a disk type but fsck not, and the fsck refusing to accept the fix despite the system inconsistency. *Stupid* little things like that are actually the most distressing thing about 5.x - I use FreeBSD because it mostly does The Right Thing. - d.