From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Oct 13 8:30:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from ren.detir.qld.gov.au (ns.detir.qld.gov.au [203.46.81.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BA215289 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au) Received: by ren.detir.qld.gov.au; id BAA06611; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:29:52 +1000 (EST) Received: from ogre.detir.qld.gov.au(167.123.8.3) by ren.detir.qld.gov.au via smap (3.2) id xma006602; Thu, 14 Oct 99 01:29:50 +1000 Received: from atlas.detir.qld.gov.au (atlas.detir.qld.gov.au [167.123.8.9]) by ogre.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA01227; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:29:19 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (nymph.detir.qld.gov.au [167.123.10.10]) by atlas.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01927; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:29:18 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (localhost.detir.qld.gov.au [127.0.0.1]) by nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA12794; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:29:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from syssgm@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au) Message-Id: <199910131529.BAA12794@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au> To: Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: Unquoted mail (was: aio_read kills machine) References: <19991012114211.O78191@freebie.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <19991012114211.O78191@freebie.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Tue, 12 Oct 1999 11:42:11 +0930" Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:29:17 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 12th October 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: >On Monday, 11 October 1999 at 20:39:11 -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 11:04:50AM +0930, a little birdie told me >> that Greg Lehey remarked >>> >>> What mailer are you using? It didn't quote the "From " at the >>> beginning of the message, so David's message appeared as a separate >>> message. If you're looking for it, sort your messages in mailbox >>> order and it'll be the next message after Andy's original. >> >> He appears to be using Pine, and it quoted it just fine for me. >> And I do believe we're both using the same MUA, so I don't know where it >> burped on the way to you. > >It doesn't have anything to do with the MUA. The message arrived here >without a > in front of the 'From ' at the beginning of the line, >which is an indication that it's a new message. But it's interesting >that it didn't happen to everybody. It's perfectly OK for 'From ' to appear at the beginning of the line in mail. It's not in any way special in standard conformant mail. It's only when you want to store it in the traditional mailbox format that you end up with a spurious mail delimiter. If your mail delivery program stores mail in such a format, it must be able to detect and neutralise unintended markers. My mailer (mh) does not use 'From ' as a marker and stores it unaltered. The message in question arrived here unmolested (ie with no '>' indicator). That is good. /usr/libexec/mail.local (the default delivery program) will insert '>' before 'From ' though only if there is a preceding blank line. I expect that the '>' some people observed was added by their local delivery agent, though by my reading of the code it can't have been mail.local. Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message