From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 11:18:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE5A16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C65B43FE5 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:18:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hAMJIXo8004539; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:18:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-162-84-171-60.ny5030.east.verizon.net [162.84.171.60]) (authenticated bits=0)hAMJIUxO018859; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:18:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20031121144116.A712D7E40E@server2.messagingengine.com> References: <20031121144116.A712D7E40E@server2.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v594) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:18:30 -0500 To: Frank Murphy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.594) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD, FHS, and /mnt/cdrom X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:18:35 -0000 On Nov 21, 2003, at 9:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > The folks at the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) are discussing > (again) where directories for recurring temporary mount points should > go. > Recurring temporary mount points are for things like cdroms, floppies, > and digital cameras as well as HD partitions from other OSes (like MS > Windows). > > Red Hat started putting these in /mnt (e.g. /mnt/cdrom), but that > totally > breaks compatibility with the BSDs, which have specified /mnt as an > empty > directory for ad hoc temporary mounts. SuSE has started putting these > in > /media, and now folks on the FHS list would like to know what people in > the BSDs' communities would prefer. /mnt should be reserved as a default temporary mount point-- it's silly to risk breaking existing tools or procedures. Anyway, I suggest you solicit feedback from Solaris users and possibly MacOS X people as well. Solaris features vold (implied by wanting to use /vol), and the latter OS places temporary removable mountpoints under /Volumes. I happen to think that OS X handles things well from a user interface standpoint-- the Finder in Panther with Miller column display and an eject symbol next to the volume name, but I'm not sure how relevant that is. Frank, is your group's standard concerned about physical volume names, logical volume names intended for human identification/access, or both? Physical device names ought to have unit numbers or even be part of a tree-like device hierarchy-- for instance, what does /cdrom refer to in a machine with two CD-ROM devices? Human-readable names also run the risk of two removable devices having the same name; people are happy seeing a list containing duplicate names (eg, particularly if one name has a CDROM icon next to it, and the other has a floppy or USB pen icon :-), but that doesn't tell you what to do with your filesystem hierarchy layout. Obviously, a standard that says "place mount points anywhere you want" isn't very useful. But if you did come up with a standard, who should follow it and what would they gain? -- -Chuck