From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 16 0:47:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gbronline.com (mail.gbronline.com [12.145.226.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9AC37B405 for ; Thu, 16 May 2002 00:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daleco [12.145.226.58] by mail.gbronline.com (SMTPD32-7.06) id A3A5DE50260; Thu, 16 May 2002 02:45:41 -0500 Message-ID: <047a01c1fcad$c049fa60$3dec910c@daleco> From: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: "Nils Holland" Cc: References: <20020516004909.A9808@daemon.tisys.org> <15586.61471.456290.764885@guru.mired.org> <20020515211922.J1282@darkstar.gte.net> <3CE34A8B.7D999E2C@mindspring.com> <20020516091031.A2259@daemon.tisys.org> Subject: Re: The road ahead? Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 02:46:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Nils Holland" To: "Terry Lambert" Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 2:10 AM Subject: Re: The road ahead? > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 10:58:35PM -0700, Terry Lambert stood up and spoke: > > > In a market where everyone is falling over each other to bring out WAP, > > > why don't good features ever show up? > > > > Ah, an easy one! > > > > Because the idiots behind WAP look at it as a means of pushing > > content at you, the same way they look at the Internet as a > > means of pushing content at you, rather than as a person-to-person > > communications medium. > > We have another two things that should be mentioned here: > Another thing I'd like to mention is that I guess the Internet is > successful because it's free. As such, I remember that a while ago all the > world seemed to swap music via Napster. Then Napster was closed down, and > started to come back, using the Internet to seel online music for money. I > find this idea a little strange, as I don't think Napster was successfull > because it made music available via the Internet, but because this music > was *free*. On the other hand, if people now had to pay in order to > download music from the 'Net, they might as well buy the CD. In addition, > if we'd turn the concept around, i.e. selling Napster music for mony and > making CDs available for free, everything would be reversed, so that > everyone would get the CDs. This seems to prove that the popular thing > about Napster was *not* that it "worked over the Internet", but that the > music it provides was free. > It *was* cool to see what real people were doing with their computers in their spare time. The rush to make big $$ turned the Internet into the focal point of many company strategies and so now we have a worldwide community with big factories, good-sized organizations, and small home (pages.) The 'Net has become like us, 'cause we made it. > > As such, I don't think business plans that want to make money from the > Internet could be very successful. Only imagine if you'd have to pay a > monthly fee for every (commercial site) you visit, or for every document > you download at such a site. I guess that would highly decrease the > popularity of the web, yet I guess there are at least some commercial > content providers that would like to charge you money for accessing their > stuff... > Many, many of them. Read the following regarding .NET **************************************** "Strategy: Blueprint shrouded in mystery" By: Mike Ricciuti Staff Writer, CNET News.com October 18, 2001, 4:00 a.m. PT read it at: http://news.com.com/2009-1001-274344.html?legacy=cnet "This whole thing is driven by the fact that Microsoft has hundreds of millions of Windows users out there, but Microsoft doesn't have a direct monthly billing relationship with those users," said Matt Rosoff, an analyst at Directions on Microsoft. "That's their consumer strategy, in a nutshell." *************************************** > Greetings > Nils > > Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message