From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 03:31:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77828FFE for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154E362F for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f182.google.com with SMTP id hn14so595351wib.9 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:30:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dvbhXSnjklsHwBZAUCGxx7pvnSg6BsK34SF8TFX+rko=; b=aMMNQSGeL65RLe+15Z8TLVrf9R0ebLAqK48pwArRJGkFUDMwgEYm9Kmn2k84TLG3Zz 5CiE7SFDbLiJQhrTz0OhvmW5hOLMIkrvACyTBxAKLglshaHi0gZsRMqJjBKyyvots1Mq F5132fWOHzbiqjM9xuelLLPFj+3Csh7qxENrbWTARrAK1BkVXhZ1tVoBhFrNYxqnVphH q9JIxJIf/fRvAOow00vqLbaRTE6ipL55tNWU/1sHV3GIq8mxS9fLPrc+UicFNLyLAEoB 1/4pofBX2ZTmFH03xZHOTqyKfS0GOeQA9shcfcuszjbko3Cy5jdntmCLRzDgm8NJlsdi z7tg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.93.133 with SMTP id cu5mr6062705wib.32.1358047857877; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:30:57 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.217.57.9 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:30:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130113014242.GA61609@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20130112233147.GK1410@funkthat.com> <20130113014242.GA61609@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:30:57 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YCMkxuIvbbf_NqWDr2Cgjz9WOVM Message-ID: Subject: Re: how long to keep support for gcc on x86? From: Adrian Chadd To: Steve Kargl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:31:00 -0000 IMHO gcc shuld be available until all of the platforms that we currently ship FreeBSD on gets clang support. This includes MIPS (which is there, but I don't think the default MIPS build uses clang at the moment) and ia64, which Marcel has been dutifully working on. Please also note that people can and will compile FreeBSD on a non-default-system compiler ; so deprecating gcc (either support or framework) should be considered carefully. Adrian On 12 January 2013 17:42, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 03:31:47PM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote: >> So, now that -current x86 is defaulting to clang, how much longer do we >> need to support gcc on platforms that default to clang? > > IMHO, gcc should be available until after 10.0 is branched. > >> I'm asking because clang support AES-NI, but gcc does not... > > The last and only time I had for testing clang's handling > of floating point revealed that clang had a few bugs and > performance issues. > > -- > Steve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"