Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 21:56:30 -0700 From: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" <kulraj@bosa.ca> To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Pornography on Yahoo Message-ID: <006101c0c49f$45734400$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> References: <EBEDLIEDDOIIJDGEKFFDAECDCBAA.jshenry@net-noise.com> <3AD774B5.9DD232BD@confusion.net>
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This is not the place for a philisophical discussion, please get the message (you and anyone else who is itching to post on this issue). I am on this list to get educated, and occasionally I flatter myself and pretend to be an educator. This is why I think most people are here - correct me if I am wrong! I don't give a rats a*** about the porn issue, and if I did I would find the right place to air my views. This is not it!! Regards, Kulraj Gurm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Berland" <stuyman@confusion.net> To: "J. Seth Henry" <jshenry@net-noise.com> Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 2:50 PM Subject: Re: Pornography on Yahoo > The reply I sent to the other person who wrote an email to questions on > this issue, which I sent backchannel, went something like this. > > Ethicalmind, > You are probably going to get many angry, unreasoned reply to > this > email. Please ignore them. Instead, please consider the reasoned > explanation I am going to give you below. > > Consider these simple facts: > > 1. You and others who agree with you have every write to protest > pornography, but you must recognize that a significant portion of people > neither consider pornography immoral nor have anything against it. > > 2. FreeBSD is a computer operating system. In laymans terms, this > means it simply loads programs into the computer. A better known > operating system is Windows. You loaded your mail program (in this case > AOL) using windows. FreeBSD, Microsoft, etc, cannot control the content > of your email, or the web pages you browse. They do not endorse the > contents of these correspondence either. > > 3. Yahoo! uses FreeBSD on its computer. Yahoo! is a very busy internet > site, so we tell people they run FreeBSD to indicate to them how well > FreeBSD works. FreeBSD is not a Yahoo! business partner or the like. > > 4. Many Pornographic sites run the Windows operating system. Do you > blame Microsoft for this? I don't think a company can reasonably be > expected to tell people what they can and can't do with their computers. > > 5. The email you sent went to the address > "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org". This address is actually a mailing > list that many volunteers are subscribed to. People trying to do things > like send email or browse the web with FreeBSD send their questions to > this list, and the volunteers help them get up and running. These > people, such as myself, have no power to tell FreeBSD, Inc what to do > with their software, which is free for all to use anyway. > > Thanks for taking the time to read this, I'm sure you and your > colleagues will see that no matter how noble you believe your cause to > be, this is not the place to send your protests. You will be expending > energy on an activity that is directed at people who cannot do anything, > whether they agree with you or not. > > If you have further questions about the relationship between FreeBSD, > Yahoo!, and the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list, please feel > free to email me and I'll be happy to explain. > > Thanks for your time. > > Laurence Berland > > > If we only send emails that are reasoned and logical, and not emotional, > these people will probably stop... > > L: > > "J. Seth Henry" wrote: > > > > You know, I've seen at least 20 posts now spewing vitriol at the poor moron > > who had the temerity to stand up for something she believes in. While I > > agree, her post was seriously off-topic, and completely brain dead - BUT SO > > WERE THE REPLIES!!! Come on folks, we have wasted (at least) 20x the > > bandwidth the original poster did - so why don't we just let it go? > > > > Also, I would like to point out that we don't see this much vitriol when a > > commercial spammer posts something. I find *that* easily as irritating and > > offensive as a knuckleheaded soap-box post from a religious zealot. BTW, for > > the atheists in the room, a recent court decision held that atheism is, in > > fact, a form of religion. I, for one, find the atheists soap box just as > > grinding and irritating as everyone else's soap box. That said, why don't we > > lay off the atheists, Christians, Quakers - and who knows who else - and get > > back to the business of learning about FreeBSD? (if the offended parties > > aren't atheists - my bad, but whatever you are, enough's enough...) > > > > As an aside, I would ask why this lady deserves more abuse than any other > > spammer or huckster. Why don't we blast them all equally for wasting our > > time? Just a thought... > > > > Seth Henry > > jshenry@net-noise.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- > Laurence Berland > Intern, Flooz.com > Northwestern '04 > stuyman@confusion.net > http://www.isp.northwestern.edu/~laurence > > "The world has turned and left me here" > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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