From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 7 17:22:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AEC106566C for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-9.bnguk.net (atmail-9.bnguk.net [80.74.253.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCE08FC15 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-9.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NeApT-0001QT-0y; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:21:51 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 537D74AC20; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:21:50 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:21:50 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: alex Message-ID: <20100207172150.GA59080@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: alex , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B6ED119.2060308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's UFS vs Ext4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:22:10 -0000 On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 01:41:29AM +1100, alex wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > Today I reformatted a machine (network server) thats run FreeBSD nonstop > for at least the last 3 years and installed linux on it. I have a raid 0 > setup with 2 hard disks in the very same machine. So you had a machine that had run non-stop for 3 years yet you replace the OS. Clever. > > Previously, the maximum I could get across my gigabit enabled network > was 60MB/s (megabytes) per second sustained transfer rate. > > Now that the same machine's raid is formatted with ext4, i am easily > sustaining 86MB/s. > > I cant put it down to the operating system kernel, as to the vast > difference in performance, i suspect it is simply ext4 thats producing > the better results (I have come to this conclusion because no hardware > has changed on that machine, only the OS). > > So can I safely conclude that ext4 is miles ahead of FreeBSD's UFS > performance wise? No you can't. What about the driver for your NIC? It may be nothing to do with the FS. > > I'd like to see some feedback.. > > I am by no means a linux troll. In fact I am far from it. I own many > FreeBSD tshirts. Oh well, if you own FreeBSD T-shirts that settles the matter. > > I see a number of factors putting freebsd behind: > > * The teams stubbornness with compiler/base tools (wont move away from > gcc 4.2.1 because they just cant accept the GPL2) They don't like the license, that's not stubbornness. > * The teams stubbornness with the base system binutils (which cause > mplayer and other multimedia applications not to build, unless a newer > version is installed) Nonsense. > * NO interest in developing new filesystems (forget ZFS), i am talking > about a base filesystem, ext4 blows the socks off UFS. You say, with your in-depth study of the matter and understanding of filesystems. > > Using such an old compiler must have a performance impact on the OS. I > say this because compilers improve over time, they generate better, > tighter, more optimized code. The binutils shipped with freebsd is more > than 5 years old now. A codes age has nothing to do with it's performance. > > It's not just my personal test that has shown that linux is ahead in > numerous areas (performance wise), but the recent phoronix benchmarks > that were released when FreeBSD 8 came out, were pretty damning. Link please. > > I'd like to see what the FreeBSD team has to say on this. > > Alex Despite your FreeBSD T-shirt ownage, your post is a troll. Nobody's interested in your bogus benchmarks & opinions on matters that you are not knowledgeable of. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html