From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 20 00:06:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7480B16A420 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 00:06:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F6043D68 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 00:06:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 14000 invoked by uid 207); 20 Dec 2005 00:06:02 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.30/3.97. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.136):. Processed in 0.101074 secs); 20 Dec 2005 00:06:02 -0000 Received: from dialup136.ach.sch.gr (HELO flame.pc) ([81.186.70.136]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Dec 2005 00:06:01 -0000 Received: by flame.pc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9970711885; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:04:58 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:04:58 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Justin Smith Message-ID: <20051220000458.GA2743@flame.pc> References: <43A6D190.3020504@drexel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43A6D190.3020504@drexel.edu> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Native" journaling file systems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 00:06:06 -0000 On 2005-12-19 10:28, Justin Smith wrote: > Are there any plans to develop UFS3--- i.e., a UFS2 file system with an > added journal? Not sure. > I've used several journaling file systems in Linux and like the Reiser > FS except for one MAJOR drawback: When something goes wrong, reiser-fsck > absolutely sucks at repairing things (Hans Reiser freely admits that but > says it's never needed because nothing ever goes wrong). Which is, FYI, absolutely and plainly bullshit. I've seen Linux machines with Reiserfs die and cause major pains for dozens of people. Hans may be a smart guy and a very successful businessman, but this particular statement is utter nonsense and I have the scars to prove it. > A UFS3 might have the same desirable features. I can't help with the answer to this :)