From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 29 18:10:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B69106566B for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (unknown [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333368FC19 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.30.101.54] ([209.117.142.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p3TI93U9096545 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:09:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20110429130820.5056390e@bhuda.mired.org> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:08:58 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <67529807-EAF5-4DEB-8B61-BD84ED8F2A5D@bsdimp.com> References: <9AD2C0D5-F2A7-4F20-B04A-AF9BFC5918F7@vicor.com> <20110429130820.5056390e@bhuda.mired.org> To: Mike Meyer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (harmony.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.6]); Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:09:05 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , Devin Teske Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:10:40 -0000 Why not both? Warner On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Mike Meyer wrote: > On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:11 -0700 > Devin Teske wrote: >=20 >> Hello fellow hackers, >>=20 >> I'd love to finally release (under the BSD license) my code for the = revamped FreeBSD boot loader menu. >>=20 >> Here's a detailed discussion of the release complete with pictures: >> http://devinteske.com/new-freebsd-boot-loader-menu >=20 > Got it, nice simple install (as promised), and it worked like a charm. >=20 > I'd like to revisit the numbers vs. letters for menu options. IIRC > (and I may not), an earlier version used letters for the menu options, > and people objected to that change. >=20 > Since we're changing the menus, we ought to look at which is best for > the end user, as opposed to just doing what feels comfortable to us as > old users. >=20 > In particular, there was a study done around '80 (I tried to find it > but couldn't; I know of someone who can probably provide a reference > if someone really wants it) that showed that menu selection with > letters assigned mnemonically are easiest for users to memorize. >=20 > Not really a major issue - you shouldn't be booting FreeBSD systems > all that often, so it's not something I care very much about. However, > I figure someone ought to at least speak up for using system that's > better for new users rather than quietly doing it the old way since > we're making a change anyway. >=20 > --=20 > Mike Meyer = http://www.mired.org/consulting.html > Independent Software developer/SCM consultant, email for more = information. >=20 > O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20