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Date:      Wed, 08 May 2002 13:44:49 +0200
From:      Andy Sporner <sporner@nentec.de>
To:        chris@aims.com.au, freebsd-hackers <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: It's not fun anymore. (Mike resigns from core)
Message-ID:  <3CD90FB1.7000806@nentec.de>
References:  <02d901c1f683$c225f260$020aa8c0@aims.private>

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I will keep this short so someone does jump all over me about being
off topic about this.

I share some of his ideas, but mainly those dealing with frustration. 
 People
here are saying with their mouths that they want new blood here, but 
following
through with actions.

People are afraid when somebody leaves core like this, but what about the
future people who might want to help in this level.  

Short to the point as far as I am concerned.  I have been in this 
business far
too long to be treated like a newbie.  I may be a new face here and my 
language
may not be the best, but guarantee that unless the mood changes a little 
bit
and it becomes a little more fun you can have it all to yourselves! :-(

This comes to basic courtesy.  If I reply to a question, then pay 
attention to
that and not do like a particular one does and boldly expand to the point of
being like an encyclopedia.  This has happened more than once!  

I have been cautioned by a few wiser people here to have a thicker skin,
but I will say one thing.  As long as I am giving my free time (something
these days that is in short supply) at least I should have fun at it and 
this
just isn't fun...  

Let's all try to get along a little better.  That goes for all the 
syntax checkers
and people who are so stuck on rules of posting that they forget what
collaboration and coopeation mean.  If you don't like to read something, 
there's
the delete key.  It keeps the whole environment more civil.  Not everybody
has had the fortitude or longitude of being here for so long to know all of
this historical arguments or what has or has not been said, so they know 
what
should not be said.  If there are complaint write them privately (Seems like
I read these somewhere).

Andy


Chris Knight wrote:

>Howdy,
>
>It's unfortunate that it has got to the stage where you feel it
>necessary to leave core. I can appreciate you doing so, but from the
>sentiments you expressed, it sounds like the FreeBSD community needs
>more people like you within core.
>
>I'd like to thank you for your all your efforts related to FreeBSD,
>especially where you have personally helped me out.
>
>I hope for FreeBSD's sake that your disenchantment doesn't extend to
>code-cutting - talented programmers such as yourself are hard to
>come by; committee executives are a dime a dozen.
>



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