Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 06:38:19 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> To: Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, perryh@pluto.rain.com, petefrench@ticketswitch.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7 installs where FreeBSD 8 wont due to CD Message-ID: <20101208143819.GA71214@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20101208091727.111a786c@core.draftnet> References: <E1PPtSm-000JSC-Mh@dilbert.ticketswitch.com> <4cff4932.19wIy6S%2BEgAziCcD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20101208091727.111a786c@core.draftnet>
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On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 09:17:27AM +0000, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:00:34 -0800 > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > Go into Fixit# and examine /dev and/or the dmesg. > > The problem is there's no "ls" in FixIt mode so you need to use > "echo *" to see what files are present. "Sort of". Fixit offers these choices: 2 CDROM/DVD Use the live filesystem CDROM/DVD 3 USB Use the live filesystem from a USB drive 4 Floppy Use a floppy generated from the fixit image 5 Shell Start an Emergency Holographic Shell Options 2,3 and presumably 4 will all offer "ls capability" in addition to many other useful utilities (pciconf, dmesg, less, vi, etc.). It's option 5 (Emergency Holographic Shell) which offers generally nothing useful (requiring echo *, etc.). I imagine the segregation of these two is due to capacity concerns dating back to the days of floppy disks. We really should re-think that model. I think most people who are in an emergency or "bare bones" situation really do want the ability to boot disc1.iso and get a shell with the majority of common utilities that make up the base system. And let's not forget those of us who PXEboot in emergencies -- we're mostly screwed. :-) A "one-stop shop" makes the most sense, IMHO. It's for this reason that I regularly advocate use of USB flash drives and the memstick image if physically at the console. (Most of our servers have CD drives, not DVD, while all of them have USB ports) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |
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