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Date:      Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:52:33 -0800
From:      "David O'Brien" <dev-null@nuxi.com>
To:        Bill Vermillion <bv@wjv.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked
Message-ID:  <20031117045233.GA18657@dragon.nuxi.com>
In-Reply-To: <20031117043747.GB66773@wjv.com>
References:  <20031117042234.7A5FE16A547@hub.freebsd.org> <20031117043747.GB66773@wjv.com>

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On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 11:37:47PM -0500, Bill Vermillion wrote:
> > > > 1) Much smaller /bin and /sbin. On i386, /bin and /sbin are 33 MB 
> > > > static.
> > > >    Dynamically linked, they are only 4 MB.
> 
> I don't think saving that little space on the / partition is as
> important as having everthing in sbin being able to stand alone no
> matter what is corrupted.

You seem to be late comming to this discussion.  #2 in the original email
was also a huge reason for this change.


> On a non-FreeBSD system I had to recover, I had to physically take
> the server from the colo to a place where I could pull the drive
> to be able to run the recovery utitlities - as none of the dynamic
> binariies worked.

/rescue

> > What was done to programs like /bin/sh, /sbin/init and /sbin/fsck to
> > make them work without access to /usr/lib?
> 
> And even if they are accessible >IF< the libraries become corrupted
> then nothing will work.  That's certainly not a 'fail-safe'
> environment.

Again you are late coming to this discussion -- "/resuce".
 
> For those who don't build the OS but install from binaries, this
> makes the system potentially less rugged.

/rescue



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